Did we have Death Knights in prepatch in 2008?
Did we have Dual Spec at launch?
Did we have queue-able BGs at launch?
Did we have the barbershop changes?
Did we have Heroic+?
Did we have the current LFG tool?
No? Shocking how it’s not actually authentic whatsoever.
OH, and we couldn’t leave out the paid boosts!
No, it’s really not more authentic to remove RDF because it was replaced with a Retail feature.
Try again, if you want.
ON POINT.
We’ve been pushing all the facts and they refuse to listen to any of it. They’re more focused on 
ing and being negative towards the concept of RDF, then providing anything of substance.
You can’t compare cars to gaming, fool. Cars are regulated because and laws enforced because theyre a danger. You still can’t point to a single legal code the gamer is breaking. You can’t because there isn’t. All responsibility goes back to the host. You’re just trying to do some high level of mental gymnastics and sounding like a corrupt a-hole in order for you to push your narrative. The only way for you to even get close is by calling it “pirating”. But people have actually been fined for pirating software, music, and videos. But even then the only people to be hit by fines are those that have done mass downloading and/distributing. Your arguments are just pathetic. Think of getting a ticket every time you drive one mile over the speed limit. Sure it happens, we’ve all done it, but no one gets fined for one mile over. Stop trying to the perfect good Samaritan. It is such a downer. We have a saying here in the trucking industry, “it’s only illegal if you get caught”. Much of the freight in the US is hauled and some minor regulation or law is broken, but still the job has to be done. Someone has to keep this country rollin. There wouldn’t be classic servers if people hadn’t showed Blizzard their interest, but instead of going after the private server players or even the host on a large scale, Blizzard decided to profit off the idea. Knowing you and your hatred you’d rather there be only retail servers and if yiu ever get your way and these classic servers ever go down, you can take an educated guess where I and many others will be and you can deal with it. Progress can only be made when the people decide to defy. Slaves wouldn’t have been freed, women wouldn’t have their rights, and America wouldn’t even exist if people hadn’t decided to defy those with power. Enjoy yout lose, i got gaming to do. I’m tired of having a debate with someone that sounds more like a slave owner then an actual normal humanbeing.
I didnt say there were not other changes.
What i said was true, 3.0 did not have rdf, so not having rdf while we are in 3.0 content is more athentic to origional wotlk.
Or are you saying the other changes somehow justify changing the 3.0 wotlk experience even more than it already has to be even less athentic to what origional wotlk was at this time?
It really isnt
Adding rdf right now makes it even less authentic.
3.0 didn’t have Dual Spec, either. Yet, we have that now.
The game is already not authentic to the original.
We’re on a patch that didn’t exist in the original expansion. The ONLY thing missing from 3.3+, is RDF. If you really wanna talk about patches, 3.4 comes AFTER 3.3, which meaaaaaans we should already have it.
True, but having rdf right now would be moving away from authentic.
So you think some changes justifies more changes? You do realize thats how we got to retail right?
Didnt realize i could zone into ulduar, toc, icc, and ruby sanctum right now. Oh wait.
Just admit you dont care about the authenticity, you want rdf for personal reasons.
The game has ALREADY done away with ANY chance of authenticity. Hence, my list of changes that were not in the original.
So this is where you draw the line? Not a single argument against the CURRENT changes, but when RDF is brought up, oh no, that’s the line. Interesting.
No, that’s how games progress through the years. You can’t have a game remain the same for eighteen years and have any hope of retaining subscriptions. For subscription-based avenues, it’s impossible to not change your game up, or you risk losing subscriptions (which is currently happening)
They’re actually in the game, in case you didn’t know that. I’m sure if you tried real hard, you COULD zone in.
If you look at it in terms of a patch, sure. But this patch is more like a phase then a patch.
It’s literally a patch - Patch 3.4, actually.
They’re still patches.
And its still a replicated phase. One things can still be both. It is a patch but it also is a phase. Both are right. As Blizzard is the owner of the server they decide what goes in or out of the game. So here we are.
This doesn’t make sense…
I’m curious - what’s the difference between a patch and a phase for you?
Not sure where you’re going with this one…
A patch would be adding something new like updates. A phase is more like having the software closer to what it was in an older version. So yes its a patch, but a retailing of the first patch. Our classes aren’t really 3.0, the talents are that of 3.3 but we’re still only doing Naxx content.
Just pointing out only Blizzard has the authority to decide what to do with the game, we decide if we want to play it though.
it baffles me how people think rdf / crz would negatively affect anything. guess what, you can take your same 25 guildies that you raid with every week, and keep raiding, you dont need to invite ANYONE from other servers, or use the dungeon finder at all, stick to your core 25 guildies and let the other people who need/want it to be able to have that. Man people are so cringe, my way or the high way, i dont care if other people have problems. losers man
A patch means any change(s) to the game. Hotfixes, for example, are considered patches.
So, it’s a patch. Glad we can agree on that.
Actually, Blizzard has a boss just like most of us. Activision, and now Microsoft (Soon, anyway)
And they have a boss too… us.
I also said it was both a patch and a phase.
Within the scope of the topic - RDF. I’m not making a general claim about the authenticity of the release as a whole. Context …
No, I can’t but it’s obvious. It’s illegal to download intellectual content without getting it from or paying the content owner. You’ve already broken the law before you started to play the game. But blizzard has shut down streamers who stream their play on private servers and twitch has shut them down too. By what legal authority could they do that? It’s illegal to play on private servers and if you come to the attention of the content owner by streaming and if you become popular enough they will shut you down.
That’s a popular saying every where. But it’s completely false. When you speed you are breaking the law even though we rarely get caught when we do it. It’s still illegal even if you don’t get caught. I often wonder what would happen if we got self driving cars. Would the manufacturers of the ai be legally required to make it obey speed limits or would there be an illegal mode you could set for speeding. Many homicides are never solved and the criminal is never caught. It’s always illegal. You’re only punished if you get caught would be more accurate and that’s all you care about. Punishment. My guess is you’re an unsafe trucker who is constantly breaking the law and putting those on the road with you in danger.
Many have made the argument that blizzard didn’t start the classic project for profit but to protect their copy write. Almost no one predicted it would be as profitable as it was.
Yeah, I want the wrath rdf in wrath classic so I only want retail servers. This shows what a pathetic ignorant liar you are.
Yeah, defying the copy write laws protecting intellectual property is just like defying slavery laws. You’re a real hero because you played wow on a private server.
We’re not their bosses - if we were, they’d be listening to us regarding (everything) notably, bugs.
We are a consumer, with no expectation of authority.
These are patches, because they’re patching things in.
Given the patch time frames, we’d already have RDF. Technically, this is not authentic in the slightest.
Not exactly true.
Don’t have my touring rocket, don’t have sparkle pony, no portable hole, multiple pets NYI, and the list goes on. There’s quite a bit of “3.3+” that’s not here.
Unless we’re in an alternate timeline and there was no 3.3!