Another day, another discussion thread on a topic that will surely not devolve into name calling.
Let me first start by saying that no, I am not here to push in favor or against Race/Faction change, I am simply looking to start a conversation about this topic and see where people stand on the subject.
As usual for my threads, questions:
Do you think Race change should be available in WotLK Classic? Why?
Do you think Faction change should be available in WotLK Classic? Why?
Hypothetically speaking, should either of those be implemented, what kind of restrictions should they include?
My personal thought on the subject:
I would rather neither be implemented, but I donât mind either way.
Yes, many of us got unobtainable Mounts (Scarab Lord, Gladiator Dragons, Al Ar, etc), Titles and other small items that will go away with Wrath such as Tier 3 sets, not to mention SWP gear. I think forcing people to re-roll their 2 year old character is just absurd when this was a Feature available in Wrath and I believe Blizzard already did many Changes to the game where the âRoleplayâ argument doesnt fit anymore.
I think Faction Changes could be harmful for the game compared to Race Changes, but i wouldnât mind it if adding Race Changes meant adding Faction Changes aswell. I donât wanna abandon my 2 year old character.
Make it a 1 time per account or 1 time per character service. Increase the price of it if theyâre afraid of it affecting their Boost service.
Paid Race Change and Paid Faction Change should both be available. The cooldown should be 120 or 180 days.
I have no intention of using either service, but both were available during the original WoTLK and both services should be available in LKClassic.
It is not hyperbole to state that LKClassic will have 1/100th of the players as the original WoTLK (BRING IT ON, DELIMICUS), so if these paid services keep players subscribed (and logging-in), these services keep the game going. And generate more BobbyBuxxxâ˘, so win/win/win.
I agree with Jeddite. These changes and restrictions were originally in place to âhelp preserve the community right?â Just allow it, the community is trashed and not like it was back in 08 and 09.
As someone who deleted my first max-level characters, a female UD warlock and a male Belf priest to reroll male UD for both, for the aesthetics as well as the racials, during the original TBC, Iâve been happy that race change hasnât been introduced yet. That feeling of permanence of choices has been satisfying in that itâs nostalgic.
However, I donât think Iâm strongly opposed to really almost any change that they may bring to Wrath Classic, whether pushing further for a more hardcore Classic feel, or adding more Retail-esc QoL features.
What Iâm looking forward to the most about Wrath Classic is playing the classes I am planning on playing (namely DK, and probably either a war or pal alt â or possibly druid), and reliving the content with a group of people to enjoy it with.
Iâve noticed the New Group finder UI for Wrath Classic and have been really enjoying cross-realm/cross-faction grouping in Retail, so wouldnât even be bothered by that!
Yes. Iâve played all of TBC as a subpar race for my class, and it has done nothing but negatively affect my game experience. I played every single arena game at an inherit disadvantage because of a decision I made 3 years ago to play a race I thought looked cool without thinking years into the future. Original WoTLK implemented a solution to this problem with race changes, and removing that solution does nothing but cause problems.
Yes. I donât feel nearly as strongly about faction changes as I do race changes, but they were in original WoTLK and should be in Classic as well. At this point most people have gathered on mega-servers with 100/0 faction balances. Thereâs no server balance for them to hurt. With that being said, I do at least understand the argument to not include faction changes (as opposed to race changes that have absolutely no reason to not be included).
Whatever restrictions originally existed on them. If someone whatâs to change their race every x days, thatâs on them. It doesnât affect a single persons gameplay experience except their own.
Do you think Race change should be available in WotLK Classic? Why?
YES. It was available in original WOTLK and should be now. WOTLK comes with significant racial changes and you should not be punished for your choices which were relevant to previous expansions.
Do you think Faction change should be available in WotLK Classic? Why?
Same as above
Hypothetically speaking, should either of those be implemented, what kind of restrictions should they include?
1 x faction transfer per month
race change unlimited.
Like LFD, this has already been discussed to death for months before you came along.
That said:
Selling race changes is less dumb than boosts and the original wrath sold it.
See above.
Only restriction it needs is to be on same faction, not switching to opposite faction.
Blizzard has always been stupid with restrictions. âYou canât move PVP to PVE.â Pointless. âYou canât change your name or model.â Again, pointless. Race changing is a bit more advanced but donât see why it canât be sold on the store. ALL of these would be more ideal than boosts, which they decided to sell instead.
Yeah Iâd like it. I made a belf hunter with no intention to raid, just to casually level with my partner. Now Iâm high end raiding and Iâm forced to do less dps because of a selection i made at the character select screen.
Yes, race change is has little effect on the community. Factions remain in balance. I have invested lots of gold and time in professions and riding. Would destroy my connection to my character to have to start from lvl 1 on a new character just because I want to look different.
No, opens up possibility of faction imbalance. However, might make things even on some servers if enough go. Depends on the server and how many people are interested in changing.
Restrictions should be made on faction change because it causes faction numbers to change and server imbalance is an issue. If it was implemented, then maybe you can only change to the lesser population faction and that is final for that toon. No restrictions on race change because it keeps the player in the same faction.
Yes, it is neither fair nor fun to have to level a completely new character in order to change race for whatever reason, mostly for aesthetic preference but also to benefit or experience from different/better racials. Many players have extremely difficult and time consuming achievements such as scarab lord, rank 14 etc.
Yes, from the POV of a GM it is incredibly restricting when it comes to recruitment, especially on OCE. Also the same reasoning as above in terms of having to level a fresh character.
No or little restriction on race change. 90 day cooldown on faction change.
Iâd still love an explanation from Brian Birmingham why faction change is the one thing heâs insisting on an âRP Explanationâ as to why it doesnât exist, while allowing things like server transfers and boosts.
