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But why? This tbh honest and I try to not be insulting, sounds over the top to be polite or at least how it was put from what I read with lvl squishing the gear. Why not just make heroic gear almost as good or as good instead of squishing gear that affects progression into the next phase.
But Tbh honest defeats the literal basic rpg purpose of moving forward in a game, actually makes it more boring… There’s plenty of awesome items in plenty of rpg games and mmo’s i’ve played that are hard to get. But I got to move on even though that boss was harder than the one later. Naxx 40 was way harder than tk and ssc tbh. I don’t want that gear to be comparable as that makes no sense.
Or to be closer with the times. there’s bosses in tk I thought that were harder than hyjal bosses. Again the gear doesn’t need to be better or equal. If you reallllllyyyy want that then the easier solution that might not have as big of consequences is just raising ilvl of
heroic gear instead of dropping gears level from the next tier that is supposed to help with progression going into the next tier and into that heroic or even for that guild to go into normal ICC… Like I see this doing more bad than good especially sense people want to make bosses harder. Again if I understood the other post and the blizzard comment right. This makes even less sense and making heroic gear better makes more than dropping ilvl.
You know what ill give a irl example. I make 20 dollars an hour and you make 17 ( or vice versa in the wow instance.) instead of asking for a raise I ask them to decrease your salary for your job because I thought you were making to much. I now impoversh you ruining connections and your ability to put food on the table even possibly making the community more toxic towards individuals in that job when all I had to do was ask for a raise that would be more beneficial than hurting someone else. Idk just how I see it.

Don’t release new content so quickly. Problem solved.

See previous.

Titles and legendaries do this.

You’re doing that by altering the numbers on players as opposed to doing it to the bosses. This is very much looking like ill-disguised balance changes masquerading as “make gear relevant” because there are far less disruptive ways to accomplish what you claim to be trying to do.

This was part of Wrath. Stop acting like you know better. Seeing Retail, you clearly do not. We do not want your “balance changes” here.

It’s not “scary”, don’t insult us by comparing us to something akin to a child alone in the dark. We can comprehend what you’re doing just fine. We don’t need the condescension.

Here’s my feedback.

No.

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You know what ill give a irl example. I make 20 dollars an hour and you make 17 ( or vice versa in the wow instance.) instead of asking for a raise I ask them to decrease your salary for your job because I thought you were making to much. I now impoversh you ruining connections and your ability to put food on the table even possibly making the community more toxic towards individuals in that job when all I had to do was ask for a raise that would be more beneficial than hurting someone else. Idk just how I see it.

That’s Socialism you’re thinking of, totally different ball of wax, and not what the stat squish is about. They want to reduce the impact of TOC gear and make Ulduar gear more impactful in terms of progression and gearing. Previously you could basically skip ulduar and just run TOC and get the gear needed to get into ICC. They want things to be more linear and make upgrades more meaningful.

Now keep in mind this is their intent. That does not mean this is the result we will get.

At least one of them has a sense of scope it seems.

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he didn’t describe socialism at all

In order:

  1. Gutted that there’s no Oceanic Fresh Start server. This has thrown my plans for Wrath Classic into complete chaos.
  2. Disappointed that many announcements, including #1 above, were left until 3-4 days before the pre-patch. Made it really difficult to adjust my plans. This is probably the MOST disappointing aspect of all this. If things had been announced earlier, I could have adjusted accordingly. But as it is I’m a bit screwed and genuinely questioning whether I want to put the time into Wrath Classic now.
  3. Surprised by the ilvl squish. But it was a known problem during OG Wrath and I completely understand the decision and believe it will improve Wrath Classic.
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Thank you for the update. Please do not let the toxicity around here discourage you from continue doing this, people will be negative and entitled but they are not the majority.

Regarding changes involving gearing:

Please don’t. I’d rather re-experience wrath as it was, not with retuning to make it “better.”

Better is subjective in game design, and whatever is changed risks ruining the game for as many people as it improves it for.

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That’s exactly what he described.

I’ll not pursue a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.

I read the blue response to you regarsing arena gear rating, and im sorry, but the answer you got was appalling. The Dev doesnt understand a word youre saying and confirms they dont play or monitor their game.

LoL says the legless man in an but kicking contest.

Then just tell them their ideas are bad, and to leave wrath alone. There is no need to change it.

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It’s funny because its true lol.

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For the love of the bloody earth mother.

NO MORE CHANGES.

ZIP ZILCH NONE

Blizzards already screwed this up so badly the expansions barely recognizable anymore.

If you want to pass on the bloody opinions of the community, then tell them to stop changing things, stop trying to push their own dirty miserably inept fingers into a perfectly good product just to try to get their names on something.

Also tell them as long as the changes stand, they have no right to call this Wrath Classic, they need to change the title to Wrath: Reforged, so people whom don’t follow along with every update aren’t going to be blindsided and think they are actually making a faithful recreation of Wrath, but a train wreck just like their Warcraft 3 franchise.

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I should point out that an easy fix instead of squishing the toc and icc gear which would be disastrous, would be to just increase the Ilvl of gear from ulduar. This would cause the change they are seeking in making ulduar realavent longer while not causing all the disastrous effects such as affecting dps and tank rankings. Personally if they reduce the ilvl for icc gear I will most likely quit since my fondness for playing the classic stemmed from my memories of wrath and how badly blizzard messed up warrior going into cataclysm.

Taking things away never feels like the best option and recuding Ilvl is taking away character power. You want to make ulduar feel relavent longer just increase the ilvl of some the items that drop in there.

RDF

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I am entirely agains squishing ilvls. We play the game to grow in power and reducing our power gain??? What??? This is Classic, to play it how it was. Do these changes in a season of mastery or something but not in Classic. Just let Ulduar live for a longer period of time before releasing TOC. Give Ulduar 4 months or something. Do not nerf the gear, that is not an option ever. I would not play because of this.
I am in favor of them giving free transfers for under populated factions to populated serers.

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Wintergrasp aerial combat

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This is what exactly people don’t seem to understand. I swear people these days are just toxic in nature the second something isn’t what they want. Sounds like my children when they were young /shrug

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It’s an entitlement mentality.