[WotLK] Let's talk Dungeon Finder

What can I say? Your passive aggressive ultra smug attitude brings out the worst in everyone.

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Hmm. This makes a lot of sense. I was talking about Wrath as it was for sure which is no longer the context.

I personally don’t like LFD, so I can see where the anti-LFD people are coming from also. But I’m also here just to play devil’s advocate because it’s fun and discussion is fun.

Says a lot more about you than it does me. Personally I believe my attitude to be reactive to yours, which is to say, if you came on nice, I’d have been nice.

I’m always willing to start over, if you are. If you’re interested in breaking the cycle, that is.

It keeps track of who is on my ignore list and doesn’t group me with them. If that guy votes to kick every single subpar DPS or slightly undergeared tank then he’s going to be restricted on how often he gets to initiate a kick until he calms down or just doesn’t run as many dungeons. It works. A lot better than classic; where there really aren’t any consequences any more.

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Gotta say I have a hard time believing that doesn’t translate into in game behavior as well.

With anyone else maybe. You… I wouldn’t dream of it. I believe that this is your only way to get attention to yourself and you enjoy any and all interaction.

I wouldn’t take that away from you. You need it to get thru your days.

Well, I think it’s without question that you opened with aggression. You made the first move, and since I’m not a weak pushover, you’re going to get pushback. The cycle continues.

Hey, can’t say I didn’t offer. Seems you like the antagonism.

I don’t think you did. I think you know very well what it means to be passive aggressive is and I think you do it very well.

See, I complimented you.

Same as the dual spec “discussion”.

The lost the debate long ago, theyre not getting what they want and so their only recourse is to be angry and trash posters that represent their ineptitude.

/YAWN

It’s not huge but you yourself have said that people who know you commented that your text comes across considerably less friendly than your voice.

Stick to discord or voice chat and you might be right.

Someone needs a nappy!

I think he tuckered himself out with all the dancing and dodging he’s been doing.

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I legitimately would feel no urge to be passive-aggressive, aggressive, or whatever other variant if you didn’t hit the ground punching.

The problem is with a lot of folks, simply voicing the opposite perspective comes off to them like it’s an act of aggression.

They think “This guy is ruining my game experience”. Simply look to Dreamsphere’s posts, he literally thinks I’m killing his game.

In reality, Blizzard made the choice based on their perceived feedback quota. I agree with it, and see it as a great change, but some people think me simply existing on that side of the page is some kind of stack against them, and the only option is to come out swinging with anger.

It makes a lot more sense to have this discussion as complete outsiders to the process. Meaning you can recognize that I approve of Blizzard’s decision while also realizing that I had nothing to do with that decision in the first place (logistically). Your frustration should be pointed towards Blizzard, not me.

That is unless, of course, you believe Blizzard to have made the decision because of me, in which case, I’m flattered but…I don’t think that’s the case.

If only people saying vote kick will be abused could take 5 seconds to google how the system worked in 3.3.5.

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Ok. Lets test this.

Lets say every time you hurt someone else you get shocked. Do you think they will keep intentionally hurting other people?

Now lets move toward grouping in wow. If you have a hard time getting groups, and know being a jerk will possibly reduce your chances of getting your next group are you more, or less likely to be a jerk? With rdf being a jerk does nothing to your chances of getting your next group, doesnt even effect how long it takes to get said group. Other players will be forced into your group even if you are an absolute jerk regularly in rdf.

Vs no rdf, getting into group with others IS effected to some degree by your past behavior. After all i am sure you have at least heard 1 player being called a nonja in your time on this game, or a scammer, or are known foe being a jerk. At least one person from your realm you have heard someone described in this way, even if YOU dont remember the “offenders” actual character name right? Because some people on your realm do remember their name. And won’t group with them. Reducing that individuals chabces of getting into a group.

Heck just recently one of my realms players hosted a gdkp and scammed the pot and some gear from it. He got guild kicked from his guild and is likely having to transfer off the realm (if he hasnt already).

Bad behavior wont always result in consequences, but rdf severely reduces the chance of bad behavior consequences and the severity of said consequences.

So at worst get group kicked for being a ninja/jerk/exc? Vs being possibly guild kicked and blacklisted for such behavior, but at the very least reducing your chabces of getting into another group. Tell me which do you think will act as a better deterrent for bad behavior. Temporary slap on the wrist consequences of rdf, or harsher and/or much longer lasting consequences that realm reputation has.

Must be a stay at home dad’s guild with as much as you troll forums.

Smart phones are a thing, my dude.

But you have to have a job to afford one.

This is a rather interesting viewpoint considering a huge portion of the country is working-at-home now.

I do not work-at-home, but the wife does.