to be honest after thinking about it with classic wrath being the last classic series they mite do because i doubt we will get classic cata there is no point to add RDF a year later.unless they add RDF at the start of classic wrath there is no point to have it just for a year and thats it.
im petty sure since blizzard is leaving it up to the community to see where we go after classic wrath we will get…classic plus.classic wrath is the last ride of the classic series.
I think you’re really reaching here. RAF and random dungeon groups couldn’t be more different. It’s like comparing an apple to a City Bus.
TBF both buses and apples roll down hill…so do other things
The hell it is. Are you saying this unironically?
I’ve been doing some retail lately.
Queued up for a random dungeon…somebody got a drop that I could use and when I inspected him, he was a decked out full tier person who’s ilvl was way beyond the blue that dropped (I’m a fresh 60 just about).
I asked in pchat several times if he needed it or if they could hand it to me, and…nothing? Not even a response. Nobody said anything. Run ended, he left instance group, see ya.
All runs are like this…completely silent “get sh-- done and get out” experience where talking or any kind of communication is discouraged because what’s the point?
Even if I was generous enough to grant you that socializing happens even occasionally in random dungeons, it has no effect on your server because the players you’re socializing with are not on your server.
You can’t be serious with this…
Sounds like quite a few TBCC runs I have done. Its almost like its player behavior that is causing the issues and not how groups are made. People don’t suddenly decide to not be dicks if they’re in a organic party over a random one. YMMV though
Retail is a complete cancer when it comes to anything resembling goodwill and community. And I hate to tell you this, but runs back in BC and Wrath weren’t interpersonal yakfests either. Most people didn’t have a vent so communication was almost nil outside of guild runs.
As long as we can agree that the guy who said that RDF is a cornucopia of positive community growth is on some danke stuff, it’s fine.
I still argue that it’s really not about the talking “during dungeons” that is the point. It’s the preparation of forming the group and the process behind it that leads to future groups and potential future communication between those players involved (which undoubtedly happens in no-DF systems).
There will be no prep work needed for wrath instances. You’re going to spend all your time sprinting from boss to boss. I can assure you that any friends you’ll make will be from Raiding, not from 10 minute rolf stomps you can do naked.
Maybe we get pre-nerf heroics then
No such thing. They were cakewalks from day one…
No offense, but did you play in wrath? From start to finish? I only ask because I think you’re seriously underestimating how easy dungeon were
Yes, I played start to finish. I remember they were easily run down later in the expansion but early on I do remember some were not cake walks. I do recall wipes on several particular bosses and spots in certain dungeons before we out-geared it all. Halls of Lightning last boss, Oculus, later pulls in Ankahet, the Gundrak boss, and more.
You acting like they are brainless easy out the gate is the real revisionist history…
Halls of lighting last boss was a DPS check yes, but as long as you didn’t try to skip the last trash giants you could run and hide. Oculus was pretty easy as long as you did the right thing on the drakes, skipping roaming packs in ankahet always led to problems, don’t remember any hard bosses in Gundrak.
Point is, any time you tried to skip a pull it could lead to doom. One pack at a time without getting adds and you were probably ok. There’s a theme if you noticed.
I’m sorry, but I was comparing the boosts to raf.
I mean, yeah, basically every content in this entire games history = play smart and good → bad guy dies.
Not everybody is smart and good and that’s OK.
First, you got d*ck looted … welcome to WoW. No system is perfect, and loot is not the issue. We’ve all experienced that.
Second, lack of social skills is also not the issue. Even if I was generous enough to grant you that your behavior in that run was better than attacking the poster other than the issue, I’d still have reasonable suspicion that the other player probably thought you deserved it.
Lastly … Yes, I am absolutely serious because I saw RDF as means to meet new players and make friends. But, as they say, you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Translation: With or without RDF, you are going to find a few d*cks. Get over it.
Your befriending of people who aren’t even on your server does nothing to advance the web of community connections within your realm.
You’ve been going on and on and on about how we need to be social, but it’s pointless to make friends off-realm?
You’re turning into a one trick joke.
Yes the entire thesis statement of why RDF is bad is almost centralized around the fact you’re grouped with people not on your realm, are you just now starting to get caught up?
Its not solely your level of communication you feel motivated to engage in with your party that is the issue.
Seriously. You are a becoming a joke now. You seem to change your own rules on who and how to become social/friends with depending on what topic you’re in. You haven’t been anything near consistent.
I honestly think you have no touch with the outside world and your sole source of communication is through some bizarre ever changing ruleset you come up with.
Do you think I care about who and how you make friends with people? That’s not even remotely what this discussion is about.
From your very first post on the topic you’ve seemed to lack all ability to get what the problem is, and I can see that isn’t improving.