WOTLK doesn't need RDF

Counter-point: #somechanges

Blizzard already gave themselves the out for changes they would make, and you’ve probably happily accepted a few of them.

It only didn’t have RDF at the start because it was being developed to fix an issue.

They surely would of had no problem releasing it earlier if it was ready earlier.

Stop grasping at this weak argument.

so you think Blizz doesn’t want people to run their content back to back? and that’s okay? you think they would rather add limiters to access of their product because “you’re doing SM Cath too much”?

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I honestly knew it was a slippery slope from the start.

No they want you to stare at LFG BB without blinking spamming “hunter lfg” to 90 players and hope they invite rather than ignore you.

It’s almost as if you didn’t start this entire thread by stating your personal position on the topic of dungeon finder being included in or removed from wrath classic including a series of reasons and justifications for you holding that position. And then proceeding to argue those reasons and justification over the next 19 days with your fellow forum goers. But it’s clearly me that made the mistake of thinking there might be objective correctness related to the subject…

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I’m already a ret paladin, I actually get laughed at when asking to join groups.

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you don’t get it man, Blizz speaks through them and them only. never mind we all wouldn’t get it.

As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Can I take “raid lockouts since vanilla” for $100?

irrelevant to the RDF discussion.

So quintessential design by 2022 Blizzard?

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You brought up content running limitations.

That has literally existed in the game since vanilla all the way to even retail.

The answer to your question is no, obviously not all content was designed to be effortlessly run back to back.

Yea, they probably would do that.

Just give locks a job “need to tank this next boss, can i get a summon?”

LF DK tank and 3 Mages with imp blizzard for Spell cleave dungeon spam,pst!

Happened in Classic.

Happened in TBC.

Surely there is no way it will happen in WOTLK?

SUCH SOCIAL!

Those mages best be enchanted and glyphed properly or no deal.

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I don’t think this type of comp will be requested in WOTLK, as every class is capable of really decent AoE. Instead I think it’ll be gearscore requirements or something similar.

“LFM Heroic Occ, 5.5k gearscore, link achievement!”

JK, no one does Occ without RDF

Oh, I guess? Though we have the dailies in TBC Classic right now and it’s not a problem. Getting it done through Dungeon Finder would be convenient, but it’s not like running the daily dungeons is hard or overly inconvenient as things are now.

That’s true, but I don’t see how what you’re saying supports the idea that forming one’s own groups is something that doesn’t work or something that people don’t do. :stuck_out_tongue:

I fear that’s probably something that none of us will be able to fully explain to someone who doesn’t see any merit in it. I’d much rather have soulless interaction than none. And in my own experience, interaction has only seldom been soulless or patently unwholesome.

I’ve been around since very late TBC. I played very consistently until Warlords of Draenor and then took a break. Came back for Legion and quit at the end of that.

I would agree with you if there was some item level requirement to manually form your own group. But that isn’t so. If you ever feel like you’re being turned away from too many groups, just make your own! If the problem is as prevalent as you say, there should be a flood of whispers from fellow un-geared and off-meta players the instant you send your LFM message to chat.

Whenever I actually need to run a dungeon, I form the group for it and I pay no attention whatsoever to the composition of it outside of trying to avoid stacking too many people who use the same armor types. The only time I’ll join someone else’s group is if I happen to see someone looking for more for a specific dungeon that I feel like running. I was absolutely blown away by how easy it is to form your own groups when I started doing it. And all throughout Classic so far, I’ve played nothing but DPS.

I see what you mean, but I just don’t look at the dailies as a problem. Especially if we take into account the fact that we currently have them in TBC Classic and they haven’t been a contentious point for any significant number of people (at least that I’m aware of).

It just seems like we’re talking about more convenience for the sake of it.

I have no idea what you mean by people playing “illegally”, but yeah, I think most of us who don’t want Dungeon Finder are okay with it “as it as” if they implemented it during the ICC phase.

That’s genuinely a pretty good example.

The most convenient option will always be the one that the majority of people default to – That doesn’t mean it’s better or good for the experience in any way. Fast food is a great example of this.

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Removing RDF.

This 5 Head idea is brought to us by the brilliant minds of the creators of games like BFA and Shadowlands!!

:clown_face::clown_face::clown_face::clown_face:

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