WOTLK Content needs to be FAR FAR Harder

??? Super confused, I literally just stated what you actually did over being butthurt that someone disagrees with you about a video game. I was being sarcastic when I said your parents would be proud, they wouldn’t be.

Also why are you comparing you online bullying people with a physical altercation? If I saw two people fighting in public I would probably call the cops.

they buffed ? cause I few friends did the ptr anddd it was piss poor easy =/

Different strokes and all that, but that’s how Wrath works. That’s the game.

I’m not trying to say your opinion is invalid or anything, since that’s kind of an oxymoronic statement to make. I just liked Wrath the way it was, and that’s how it was.

what? I am more willing to talk the easier something is as I don’t have to zone out while I get my face smashed in. When running a normal Nexus I can just chat with people compared to trying to kill the Elden Beast in Elden Ring. I am not going to be saying a word to you in that fight.

If the dungeons were hard enough you would all be getting on discord.

The dungeons are so easy you dont even need to focus really.

Tank mass pulls then yall aoe it all down.

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And how does that keep me from getting on discord with my freinds if I want to?

We are talking about RDF…with pugs…

That’s not true at all, retail tells us that. Retail has built in voice integration and people still don’t use it for some of the hardest dungeons in the game.

Your “theories” have already been proven wrong. You need to try something else now.

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Yes but the Classic project didn’t come from people desperately wanting WotLK. They wanted to re-play Vanilla WoW.

We are moving into new territory where the Classic game is slowly morphing into retail. Many of the changes that occurred in TBC, WotLK were very controversial.

Blizzard have and will continue to tweak the game, I don’t think its beyond the realm of possibility for them to correct some of the mistakes that were made the first time around.
Making dungeons and heroics too easy was a mistake.

Considering i mythic raided in Retail and have a few cutting edges, you do get on discord when you go high enough in mythic+ dungeons.

Maybe you never actually got to the “hard” content?

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If a 5 man is hard enough I have to voice chat to get it done with a group of random people, I’m simply not going to do it outside of my guild.

If that’s the only content I have, then I’m probably just not going to play the game.

I’m only speaking for myself here - you do you.

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I only get on discord with pugs for raids. You can easily coordinate CC through the text chat like we are atm. You can easily talk to each other like we are atm.

Voice is something I reserve for friends/raid content/guilds. It is not something I do for everyone.

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I shouldnt of said discord i meant any form of communication.

These dungeons wont have anything required, you just mass pull and aoe down.

Wheres the social structure they are forcing on us with that?

You dont need to talk or communicate anything is my point.

Sure you did.

Maybe really high. Are you honestly advocating for Wrath dungeons to be comparable in difficulty to 23+ dungeons? Because most groups under that are NOT using voice.

Or maybe not all of us need voice so that the tank can tell us to kick mobs in a +12. :joy:

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No im advocating that removing RDF isnt going to make us more social.

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Blizzard thinks it will

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Nah. I always hoped for Wrath classic as-is, as the balance it struck between convenience, difficulty, and grindiness hit the sweet spot for me.

In terms of the game before it went totally off the design rails, Wrath was the pinnacle for me. The social aspects everyone is claiming as the differentiator between classic and retail is a complete non-issue for me. It’s the retail power systems and class design that I dislike and that distinguish the two for me.

Dang i should wrap it up, blizzard has literally never been wrong before.

Dont you have a bridge to go under?

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Just a reminder… for most of wraths progression cycles it did not have Rdf… so if you are remembering wrath for Rdf you either didn’t play wrath that much or came way late and skipped most of it.

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RDF was in for HALF of wrath.

This isnt 2009, we dont play the same anymore.

Let go of the past.