Wot in an Oppressed Nation

One of the few interesting parts of Gridanian lore is that the tribal cat people despite significantly predating Gridania are treated as and presented as criminals in the story, despite as far as I can tell simply continuing to hunt like their people had been doing long before Gridania was established.

Is it wrong that’s one of the things I am loving about FFXIV, that there’s a great deal of racism and bigotry even amongst the ‘good guys’, and it’s up to you, the PCs, to deal with it somehow?

'Cause I love that. That takes a lot of gumption to put that into a story and have the ‘Silent Protagonist’ have to navigate that kind of scene without making them a Gary Stu solving everyone’s problems with the magic of friendship (note to self, make a purple Au Ra Black Mage) or having you constantly handing out naps every time one of those gits opens their face-holes.

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This guy single handedly made me RP a poacher.

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I actually don’t remember much of that outside of Gridania. In the desert all that matter is how much money you have and the pirates don’t seem to actively discriminate on race. Gender yes, race no.

With that revelation Kazimoar, i’m noticing other things too, Like, there was a cat lady who had me deliver a letter to a merchant at the market. When I did, it was a simple “you got any of this item?” letter. The person at the stalls was confused as to why they hired a courier for something so simple, and came to the conclusion that “outsiders think we’re all jerks.” Followed by “Well, we aren’t ALL jerks, besides why is it our problem if outsiders bring suspicion onto themselves” kinda line.

With the idea that the cat folk are pretty much native, and that that particular cat lady was in her actual homeland being treated as an outsider adds quite the spin.

Ya know, I know more about Gridania’s history and social conflicts by level 9, than Stormwind’s after 9 years. Not because I don’t read WoW quest text, but because that quest text rarely says anything meaningful.

Oh, does the plague that affects humans but not elves come back? It’s been referenced a few times off hand. Also, strange bout of realism there.

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Objectively everyone coming together should be good, but killing the people who annoy you like some sociopath is so much more cathartic. Just ask my Skyrim save.

I’m Kyra Vast on Balmung and also Mateus on the weird, rare chance I log on there (or when cross-realm visits open).

In other news, go see Alita: Battle Angel. It’s Anime: The Movie and is very good.

Just wait until you guys get to Ishgard.

The elezen have some…issues, I think.

Ishgard are the Catholic elves? I’ve heard of em.

can’t wait

just a reminder that the elves murdered my people thinking we were dragons

Ishgard is The Worst.

Aymeric owns tho

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Not allowed to enter their city

Yup, they’re on The List already.

By all means, let the battles commence. I’ve said for years that unions were the only bulwark the common man had against corporate abuses, and everyone told me I was nuts. Its like nobody realizes that every right we have as modern workers came from unions, and that those rights are being stripped away with every union busted and every right-to-work state established.

Enjoy takin’ it up the caboose, ladies!

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Corporations without unions abuse their workers. Unions without restraint abuse their members.

Conservatives hate government and trust business, liberals hate business and trust government. Everybody misses the point.

Power is power, and power corrupts.

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I don’t remember the plague being referenced at all later in the game.

The lancer’s guild quests covers the tension between the drow elves and the city.

Supposedly lore wise they have a massive undergound city in the area but no one I know actually believes SE will ever put in the game.

Wait there are drow in this game??

Yeah, they were called Duskwight in the creation menu.

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You listen to any Union Folk? It seems up your alley and it’s pretty catchy.

EDIT: I’d give it a Pete Seeger/10

Better to go into battle with a rusty sword than hope your enemy is just throwing punches. unions aren’t always without problems, but you can’t sacrifice the good in pursuit of the perfect.

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I tend to be pro-union myself, but that’s chiefly because I live in a time and place in which they have been marginalized and neutered, resulting in runaway corporate greed like what just happened to Blizzard.

I’ve talked with older people who worked under a union for years and had horror stories about how the union bosses could be as bad as any Wall Street shark or slumlord.

Right here and now, we definitely need more and stronger unions, in every industry. I just want people to keep in mind that the solution must fit the problem, and no solution applies to everything. Workers shouldn’t rush to give away all their power to a union boss, either. It’s about balance, and making sure power is as distributed as possible, not concentrated in the hands of a few.

Because whoever those few are, they’ll always become the enemy once they have all the power. That’s what power does to people.

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Definitely agreed.

There’s nothing wrong with the idea of a Union, it’s just, like all things, when you add people to an idea, the idea turns to :poop:.

Fingers crossed that, unlike most of the Union’s I’ve dealt with and been a part of, if we do get a ‘Gaming Dev/Employee’ union, they’re smart enough to keep a very tight squirrel-grip on the people who end up leading the union.

If they don’t, you’ll end up with the type of Unions we have down here in Oz, and they’ve been hemorrhaging members and influence for about two decades now due to the folks getting in charge being more interested in personal aggrandizement, political aspirations and bribery.

Fingers crossed people aren’t going to let that happen if the gaming industry does unionize to protect themselves.

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