World/Server First!

Again you epically fail to grasp the fundamental basics. Just because it’s called Classic, doesn’t mean it’s new or that previous achievements are null and void. Just the opposite. Classic firsts are empty, for all they are is the REcompletion of 1.12 content that was already completed in 2006. You’re over a decade too late, sorry buddy. Nobody will be getting world firsts, unless it’s for brand new never played before content, which Classic is not.

It’s not about what it’s called.

It’s the fact it’s a separate game. None of the progress from retail copies over to Classic. Classic has its own, separate progression.

There will be first kills in Classic. The first people in the world to kill bosses in Classic achieve what is called world first.

Just as we say “world first” instead of “world first in retail,” we say “world first” instead of “world first in Classic,” because it’s implied that’s what we’re talking about.

They were completed in retail, but not in Classic.

Classic isn’t even out yet. If anything, I’m early. I’m not even going for world first, though.

They will. World first X in Classic, or world first Classic X.

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Wrong wrong wrong. Not sure why this basic fact keeps escaping you. It’s A RECREATION, A RERELEASE of an OLD GAME. It’s already existed in the exact same state, back in 2006. What we receive in August is no different to what existed in 2006 ergo it is the same game. That content has ALREADY been cleared. There’s nothing new about any of it. Only the name, it’s not even skin deep. A second bash at the same content is still a second bash. It doesn’t reset to first.

I think you’ll find had Classic, based on 1.12, was out in 2006 in this same iteration.

Right, but still a separate game.

Sure, in a separate game. Unless you think retail and Classic are the same thing, totally interchangeable, and I can just transfer my 120 over to Classic?

But not in Classic.

Well, there is, considering all the changes, but even ignoring that, I’ve conceded that “new” is not really the best word.

Learn to read.

I don’t care that the name is different. It could be the exact same name (which would be confusing as all hell, but hypothetically speaking…) and it’d still be a separate game.

It’s not a second bash in Classic, though. It WILL be the first time in Classic.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, is saying that the world first kill of a boss in Classic means they were the first to kill the boss in retail.

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You straight up don’t understand.

Their is no wf in classic.

It’s not a new game…if you say it is…you’re an idiot.
The bosses aren’t new…if you say they are…you’re an idiot.
The raids aren’t new…if you say they are…you’re an idiot.
If you claim world first in classic…you’re an idiot.

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Id almost, and I mean ALMOST, give you this, If I actually had to buy it. :stuck_out_tongue:
It is nothing more, than another expansion of World Of Warcraft.
So unless there should be server firsts everytime there is a change in the base game, IE: Every new xpac, then it aint a first.
But, and referring to your comment from way up in the thread

This is the fastest leveling time to 60, not the time to get world/server first. Big difference.

That time was done on a server well after launch… with much practice. During launch and having 500 people in the starting zones? It’ll take a LOT more hours to get to 30, 40 and 60.

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This thread really highlights the levels of pedantry the general forum population are capable of. There is no room for nuance and even to contemplate something outside of their bubbles results in spewing anger.

Call it a re-release.
Call it a re-skin.
Call it a “museum” release for nostalgia
Call it whatever you want. Vanilla wow has not existed in any official capacity for ~14 years.

If people want to wonder about who will get world first clear on this release that is entirely valid and the world first clears on the official release 15 years ago do nothing to negate that.

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I think this thread more highlights the fact that I’m easily entertained while partaking in a neck oil or two.

AMEN brother. I think it’s clear… Vanilla was WoW 14 years ago. Classic WoW launches Aug. 27. Each have their own “firsts”, even if hey are the very same milestones in each version.

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There is. You’re objectively wrong.

The first people to kill a boss in Classic will have achieved a world first Classic kill.

Good thing I never said the bosses or raids are new. Nice strawman.

Unless you actually were the first person in the world to kill a boss in Classic, then you’re just… correct.

An expansion? So I can play Classic on my 120 character?

Exactly.

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That was also in game time.

It actually took him closer to 8-9 days. As he would place his hunter in an inn for an entire day to get full rested xp.

He was always in rested xp from 20 to 60.

People who say they will do it in 4 days real time are fools.

But it DID exist and it WAS cleared. Sorry, not sorry, but you’re not first when you’re the ten millionth to clear something thirteen years after it was FIRST cleared. That’s just basic common sense.

Yes, pedantic and incapable of nuance, like i said.

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Fixed for you.

Completing thirteen year old content that is being rereleased as an unaltered recreation of an old, already completed version of the game, in a version that existed in 2006 and was cleared, does not equal first, however you try and justify it to boost your ego or to try and grasp at fame and glory for unremarkable acts, fact.

You didn’t fix anything. You’re not even participating in the same conversation as everyone else and incapable of recognizing that fact.

The question is: When Classic in 2019 is released who do you think will get world first MC clear.

Your answer is: That happened 15 years ago it can’t happen again.

Completely incapable of understanding that no one is interested in having your discussion we want to discuss the upcoming release of Classic wow by Blizzard in 2019.

Congratulations, you are capable of understanding the literal meaning of a word.

I’m sorry that you are not capable of understanding context.

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And you’re not first to say that. But it doesn’t matter. As of today, no one has EVER played WoW Classic. It is it’s own entity… and whether you recognize it or not, everything done in Classic for the first time… will be the first time it is done in Classic, Now THAT… is just basic common sense.

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I think you just proved that it’s you that cannot understand anything for as you’ve quoted above, you cannot have a world first when it’s already been done. End of discussion lol. World firsts are FIRSTS. It’s been done, you can’t do it again, sorry.

Pedantic and incapable of nuance.

You are not able to understand anything outside of a literal context, that’s why you don’t understand this conversation.

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Wrong. Classic is just the name. The core game itself, the thing you will be playing is not new. It’s old, rereleased, unaltered, recreated content from thirteen years ago. It’s 1.12 that’s being used today and 1.12 that was already cleared in 2006. Blizzard has confirmed no changes to the end game or the classes ergo it is old content and been done before. Nothing is new.

If they released the Marathon bar in the UK using the exact same recipe as previously, the first person to eat one wouldn’t be the first, because it’s is a rerelease, a copy, a replica, a recreation, an identical version of the original.

World first in Classic is hollow and empty on that basis alone, ignoring the fact that people have been playing this content on p servers and honing their skills for over a decade on top.