totally agree that wow lacks grit and the stories have not been very compelling for a long time now
mostly adults play the game but it feels like they’re writing for kids 12 and under
it is the difference between the real and expensive cutscenes and the ingame blah stuff
Yeah but as another said Blizzard swings too far most of the time… They seem to lack the ability to do nuanced stuff… It is like there is no middle… I mean I’m expecting Barney to show up and start singing his theme song here…
wow would be better if they took it even less seriously. The game can never really be “dark” because the world isn’t; I’d rather not play a game that feels like a 12 year old boy’s fanfic.
Everything would be red and black… so… clones of Sargeras?
There are several moments in DF that desperately need grit and violence. Take the entire arc Emberthal goes through.
Her entire existence was being one with her family, following her general - her creator - to any and all ends. Not only is she betrayed, but she learns the truth about Neltharion. That would be devastating enough, but now there is the situation of Dracthyr killing other Dracthyr. Something so impossible to conceptualize before, a thing that should be as, if not more, horrifying than cannibalism.
Where was her rage? Where was her horror? Sark should have been a pair of yellow and purple boots at that first reunion. So unsatisfying.
There are game out there that deliver the level of doom and gloom you’re after, however, and honestly the type who complain about storytelling at any moment in game history are simply the type who complain about storytelling, and the actual storytelling doesn’t seem to impact the level of complaint.
Short version: complaints about storytelling don’t say as much about the game as it says about the players complaining.
Yeee!
We need to burn the new tree!
No, bad Fuzzbutt! Bad!
What? I want my elf kabobs…
I never said I wanted it or didn’t want it, I just said I wouldn’t mind it.
Blizzard lowers the gamma, then removes the setting
HA! I’ll just go to my device-level settings!
I was fine with the level of doom and gloom WoW gave me in WOTLK, Legion, TBC, and Vanilla, frankly, so please, salty, tell me about “my type” some more 
let’s see the rest of your little assumptions.
I’m sure you were.
Next xpack being underground will def be darker
DF coming after SL was fine actually. Pretty refreshing.
I dunno… FF14 managed to subvert the “dark underground” trope with Labyrinthos’ artificial day/night cycle.
A spared child is tomorrow’s soldier. They should get skewered as well.
Darker… Like the literal realm of death that we just came out of?
Or the literal eldritch horror that broke free and threatened to take over the world before that? You know the one. The one that had all the genocide and turned ALL Horde players onto war criminals.
Or how about that demonic invasion that happened before that one?
Or the conquest of the savage Orcs before that.
I’m ok with a chill expansion every 10 years.
I am speaking in the sense that a contrast is needed for the message of love, friendship, family, etc. to come in better than what do in Df since everything felt too calm. I’m not speaking in the most literal sense.
This is not what I was referring to as I expressed above.
That wasn’t even dark, it was just apocalyptic, it’s different.
It’s not dark either, it’s only something to be expected every 8 to 13 years on average in any classic fantasy setting if you live near orcs, in fact it’s quite mundane.