I still see it as boarder line pay to win and think it has no place in TBC. TBC is still World of Warcraft not a separate game
I fail to see how a level 58 with bleh gear is pay to winâŚ
Itâs paying to advance in level Azeroth the old world is still a part of the game
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But why is that a problem? They arenât skipping the actually relevant leveling content, TBC. Theyâre skipping the part that is already dead.
but itâs still an important part of the game lvling and this contributes to it being dead it wasnt like that in TBC thatâs not the TBC experience. Itâs like saying whatâs the problem with being able to buy pre raid bis or gear from previous tiers the only relevant content is âcurrent raidâ
But leveling has been largely dead in the old world for months boosts wonât change that. Why do I care if someone avoids what is at this point largely just a solo grind?
And it very much was like that in TBC originally. The vast majority of people took their 60âs into TBC. Outside of draenie/belfs the old world was dead.
You know thatâs not what I mean I mean rerolls alts new characters obviously we are already taking our 60âs with us so thatâs a mute point
Right but did the amount of people doing that really bring the old world back to the state it was for say the first several months of classic?
I donât fully understand how the Classic Forever servers are going to work. They say each character can choose to go to them instead of progressing to BC with the rest of their server, or you can pay to copy a character to both. I get that part. But I want clarification on the new Classic Forever realms. Are they essentially going to be fresh servers? Can you roll a new level 1 character on them and will we need to reserve our names? They didnât go fully in depth with some of the information they gave and it needed to be explained further.
No not to the state it was in the first several months of classic, but better than itâll be now with boosts. In an MMO changes like these affect the whole player base sorry.
Oh they certainly do impact the entire playerbase.
Trying to force people to level from 1-58 just cause in a not great situation where youâll likely just be soloing most of the time only drives players away from playing TBC.
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Would you say that Attunments force people to do irrelevant content just so they can play the real game (raid)? Would you support the implementation of paying to skip attunments or paying to get to the final tier? This game is about two things the journey and the community and this change erodes both.
Hmm⌠attunements donât force people to do irrelevant content, at least in vanilla. Attunements were phased out in TBC and it sounds like they wonât be in TBC classic so itâs a non point.
My point is irrelevancy is subjectively defined.
What? do you mean the TBC raid attunments? You donât think theyâll be in the game?
It sounds like tiers will be phase gated not attunement gated.
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Idk where youâre getting that from but if you want to pay to skip grinds in the game why not when sunwell comes out just sell gear from previous tiers since people want to raid the most new tier not waste their time playing the game
Iâm getting that from there is no talk of attunements but content will be time gated.
And once again I donât see how someone boosting to 58 with bad gear is at equivalent to getting a level 70 with current tier minus one gear.
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They are both people paying to skip over large parts of the game and get ahead of other players it has no place in an MMO
1-58 ceases to be a large part of the game come TBC. It already is now⌠1-58 content already sucks in classic. Why force people to suffer through it?
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But thatâs subjective I can say from my point of view for example that Naxx sucks but im a huge lore guy and I dont get why I cant just pay to get the corrupted ashbringer itâs only a small part of the game why would anyone care about it?