What a wonderful day to be a casual and not a hardcore wannabe.
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What are you inspecting that shows you the player was carried before the timer starts in m+
Overall key history. Anyone that doesnāt have a natural progression to the keys that theyāve done is going to raise a red flag. Thereās just no reason to take a chance on someone like that.
I agree with you, but you said inspect, so I said inspect, not third party addons/sites.
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but even then, people gift/sell their accounts as much as itās not talked about. Literally last night, we had an ele sham with 249 ilvl and a decent rank/history obv not know where to stand, do a skip, and most importantly do less dmg than me, a BDK. Key drained because he was a carry or buyer, but thereās no way to tell until you see him in your instance with the timer rolling. That was only last night so that oneās fresh in my mind. This is the problem with pay2win every day.
Why wouldnāt you use addons to put your groups together?
we do, but you said inspect, so I said inspect. So now youāre saying you canāt vet with just inspect, right? Because that would be right. That would be the problem with pay2win. And even vetted, see my sham example above.
From the look of it, mostly what they tell people was āI got banned and I donāt know why, itās a mistake! Blizzard has a fake vendetta against me and uses bots for customer service!ā or āI used a VPN and my account was falsely flagged, go spam the forums to get justice on my behalf!ā And their friends believe them 100%.
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Iām not going to get into semantics with you. If youāre running keys fairly often, Iām going to assume that youāre prepared and have the correct addons. Iāve pugged hundreds of keys and Iāve never seen a carry slip in. I donāt believe those players are trying to sneak in anyway. Every carry Iāve ever seen on this forum has exactly what they need for the achievement. They donāt keep pushing it.
The VPN thing might be legitimate in some cases. I knew a guy in classic that claims to have been temp banned for that. From what I understand, VPNās are sort of a gray area, but I wouldnāt believe anyone swept up in the current ban wave was hit because of a VPN.
You wonāt get banned using a VPN unless you do something stupid and try to log in from another country and get flagged for suspicious activity. Even then a lot of Oceanic players used or did use VPNs without problems
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Itās not semantics. I do more keys than the average player. People get around any tools I have to vet their ability. You win some, you lose some, 10 people wonāt get an invite because of vetting, and this shaman joker by all metrics was more than capable to be top dps; but he didnāt have a clue where he was. This is mostly prevalent Sun/Mon. You can backpeddle, and thatās fine upon new information, but this is the problem with pay2win.
I just donāt believe that your experience is so different from everyone elseās. Itās like the people that come in here and say that 50% of their keys are being quit on. The hyperbole actually hurts the argument.
He claimed to have his VPN set to another country to get around Netflix regional locks or something to that effect. It sounds reasonable, but I guess heās the only one that really knows.
I mentioned this in another thread, but they likely donāt just look at āare you using one of the IPs assigned to a well-known commercial VPN service that has suddenly put you in another stateā. I use one, and I bop up and down the west coast with it at random times. Itās never even so much as triggered my account SMS protection to go off.
Thereās also a difference between a temporary block on an account so that they can take a look, like a chat squelch or a security trigger, and an actual action against the account that takes place after an investigation.
I donāt want to help scammers and RMT people or anything who may not have considered the most likely details of what an investigation might involve, but they are likely looking at not just IP addresses but PC IDs, and if the account suddenly had any protection turned off before it logged in in another location, and if there was a history of connecting to the same VPN service before the account suddenly performed feats that it was previously incapable of or if it was a one-time incident.
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Youāre creating the hyperbole. I didnāt say 50% of my runs. Most people cannot identify what the problem in a run is, or have an education bias to the problem. I am not most people. The problem is the pay2win culture. Thatās what it keeps coming back to.
I think itās pretty easy to find the cause of a bad run.
ya just look for a hunter in the group.
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Well, Iām just glad some justice was done and folks who thought they could cheat their way to a win were denied.
How dare you 
