🥓 Worgen Lore - Ask me questions!

[Raedolf-wyrmrest-accord (Raedolf)]

@Miakodah-wyrmrest-accord

have you had any clarification about whether Val’kyr can raise worgen as undead?

cata questing seemed to indicate that no, they cannot, and only the Lich King has enough power to raise undead worgen but those cata quests also seemed to indicate that all nonhumans could not be raised by val’kyr and this is clearly no longer the case

@Malcotin-cenarion-circle

Yes there are other complications here, as my character Malcotin is a death knight. So I am going to ask if it is possible for him to have been raised by someone other than Arthas?

Your question there goes well with Miakodah’s, actually, when it comes to worgen and their resistance to undeath. Thanks to the connection to Elune and Goldrinn, worgen are resistant to undeath. Where humans may rise from the grave naturally or be raised by valkyr, there is an entire zone storyline revolving around the fact that worgen are resistant to undeath (Silverpine). The only exception is The Lich King. Being the most powerful force of undeath in this world, only he can raise worgen as undead as deathknights, and the deathknight curse overrides many if not all lupine instincts.

As for modern developments when it comes to Valkyr, we still have yet to see worgen turned into forsaken. Where nonhuman races were not seen to be raised as forsaken, worgen were specifically stated to be immune, and this very fact is used as a plot point. Battle for Azeroth is also not the first time we see forsaken nonhumans as well, with Blood Elves and even an Orc skeleton among their ranks already. https://wow.gamepedia.com/Tsimonh

The worgen resistance to undeath is specifically stated and used as a plot device in both Gilneas and Silverpine. And where you have recently seen Night Elf dark rangers and gnome skeletons… note that you have not seen undead worgen, skeletal or otherwise, while they added skeletons for most of the Alliance races which now roam in modern Tirisfal. The lore still stands.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=281088/battle-for-azeroth-25902-creature-models#misc-npcs

@Malcotin-cenarion-circle

I was thinking of Malcotin as being born in Grizzly Hills, to the banished Arugal and his followers. Might make it easier to place a rogue necromancer there who might have been sent out by the LK to recruit? Still, I wanted clarification that a powerful necromancer would be needed to raise a Worgen to a death knight.

That’s an idea! The Bloodmoon Pack is quite the story, and many of them were killed at the hands of the Alliance. At such close proximity to the Lich King’s domain, it would be a simple feat for his body to be found by the Scourge and sent to the Lich King for reanimation.

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