Without GDKP, raiding is pointless

but if you tracked the game 18years ago you will find many guilds who had raids on farm was running gdkp to gain gold, or was running gdkp to previous tier.
it was not a system where someone can leech gear from guild then refuse to play with them to run gdkp, the gdkp invention was by guilds and community all together.

on a side note.

kr/ch guilds in US had lol system, they was inviting you to their guild and give you rank based on the amount of money you pay per month…
if you are paying 10$ you get a rank where u only have 1 item per week
if you are paying +50$ you have a better rank which allow u to get more items.
this was very famous in 2008~2010 in wow.

if the Punishment is very severe and if it’s shown to public every day, people will question it million times in their head before they murder someone.
also they can prevent people from having the tools to murder others,

murder rate in japan and crimes in uae is very low compared to usa for a reason, you sound like American if you think the world only evolve around what you see in your country when you live in a closed box.
ofc they can ban all gold buying, and some companies manage that easily in their games.

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I usually hate “go play retail posts” but vanilla wow is about community advancement. the “me me me” mind set is from later versions of wow that people try to bring here. OG vanilla, we blacklisted people with that mindset because there is not enough gear to go around every week. A number of people will get nothing for weeks.

You want a reward for showing up, your reward is that you will eventually get the gear. But classic wow is slower pace than retail and sometimes you get nothing. If you really want to get fed gear you should’ve played druid.

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If playing the current day implementation of a 20 year old MMORPG isn’t under the definition of “wasting time” then I’m being cheated out of the time I set aside to waste.

2008 is post vanilla.

Then quit, no one who wants a healthy game wants GDKP’s in the game

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The punishments are severe and yet people still murder people.

You are really naive bro.

You need to get out in real life I think.

Furthermore, the point of the analogy was even with life in prison or the death penalty people still commit murder and still get away with it.

Nothing is perfect. No system catches all offenders. Not even the IRS.

Let me see your logs and what are your parses?

SoD fails in 3 months of ST. Era lives after years of Naxx. GDKPs the difference. Stop kidding yourself it affects the health of the game to ban GDKP. It does the opposite.

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Correlation != causation.
Sod population decline has more to do with a ton of other things. Did some people quit because no gdkp, sure. Is it the main factor, no.

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Na Blizzard allowing these bot farms to jack up the economy and make death threats against players is the real problem.

Enough is enough Blizzard. Microsoft can afford some damn game masters until they can get AI to do the job. Hire them or people will stop playing.

I think the issue is that most anti-gdkp players are gray parsing, and thus struggle to fit into the community of GDKPs.

And in standard-world of warcraft style they went to ban the thing that scares them. Just like retailers did with pvp.

The issue is that blizzard misunderstands the crying of bad players. They are supposed to cry that is their purpose, if they aren’t upset they will just quit. Their cries are them projecting their existence upon the world - but if the devs listen to their actual words, then what happens is the game becomes soft, weak, and forgiving, just like retail.

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I smell a sock puppet in this thread lol. You know who you are. But seriously here they go again, “if you’re against swiping you must be a gray parser” lol smh…

All these swipers, its amazing all the rage. They got to swipe and win for so long they feel entitled to it forever now.

Is that the latest tactic? Saying gray parsers don’t want GDKP? LOL. That’s not as funny as comparing GDKPs to the AH, but it’s still amusing.

That’s like forum troll tactic #47: ‘When argument is not working…say they suck at the game!’

Oh, and by the way…gray parsers just buy illegal gold and buy gear in GDKPs. They care about your purse, not your parse.

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wow i thought playing the game was to have fun with your friends

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It’s like nothing is done for fun anymore. Everyone’s so damn angry and in a hurry and selfish.

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Gdkp’ers will just main raid in their guilds like they have been and just won’t make any alts to raid on.

That’s all that will happen.

Right. So GDKPs would be pretty rare.

Although your guild is probably not linked to any gold sellers, a lot of GDKP runs are. And I’m sure you’re aware that a lot of your buyers bought gold. You can’t get away from that.

All assumptions.

Do you have any evidence to say who bought gold?

In case you haven’t seen the state of fresh trade and LFG im guessing you all buy gold lmfao.

Gdkps are 99% alts not mains, the majority of people raid in guilds and their guilds host gdkps for alts on off raid nights.

Pretty much all of you are clueless about how gdkps work.

I’m not saying people don’t buy gold cuz y’all are everywhere but gdkp gold is basically a closed circuit, how much gold does a non gdkp player actually need?

Gold is basically worthless after a while, bots will keep all AH prices low as is, if you wanna make gold you sell boosts.

Issue is era is the most expensive version of the game to raid on, it’s going to easily cost 300+ gold a week for full consumes and 100% of the people who were buying gold are STILL buying gold.

This little placebo gdkp ban doesn’t do anything, just shuts people like you up, meanwhile half your guild swipes.

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Latest? That’s been their MO for as long as I can remember.