With near universal approval can we get a response about dual spec please

So now your argument is “you just don’t understand bro”

We understand perfectly fine. You’re the one in denial because of your bais wants for dual spec. I played a resto druid a bit in actual tbc. Farming and questing with him wasn’t bad. It was as easy as changing my weapon to a Feral staff and going cat form, pop out to cast rejuv, moonfire, and or lifebloom, then back lifeblood, to keep killing the mob as a cat. Fully resto talents and resto gear except the staff. It was slower killing stuff, but had 0 downtime.

Have you considered maybe the problem is you just don’t want to play tbc?

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Hmm… the person i responded to quite literally said their only issue was that it wasn’t that way in TBC originally.

So #nochanges.

What am I missing? I need a good laugh.

Read again with a bit of comprehension. You totally ignore that you are disregarding the people who would like to play the OG version. And yet again, blizzards bad decisions don’t justify more bad decisions.
Really dude, this has been mentioned in multiple posts. By multiple people.

Of course. If you come to a game that has many changes with a developer that has said they’re open to making more changes, you can expect your opinions to be totally disregarded.

Same applies to you, just sayin’

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Not at all.

You came to a game expecting #NoChanges.
The developers specifically said this is #SomeChanges.
You already recognize there’s many changes and this isn’t:

Why are you here?

Duh, to campaign for the old ways.
Don’t like it don’t read it. It’s what you folks say about dual spec after all.

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I second this. I tanked my way up from level 1 to level 70 as a Prot Paladin. Joined a guild switched spec from Prot to Holy leaving the blue gear in the bank and donning cheapest fastest healing/spell damage gear I could get my hands on got attuned for Kara, ran Kara and a couple heroics and everything after the level grind was 3 days. 3 days to get, if not BiS, close to BiS Kara gear (running Mags and Gruuls this weekend). It was not anything like it was in TBC: the Original MMORPG. Dungeons were easy, Heroics not much harder and Kara was simple. We learned. The trash and bosses didn’t. I think we wiped a total of twice in a 3 hour clear and that on bad pulls. I ended up in one Kara run getting 7 pieces of gear two offspec tank pieces and a Token off of Prince. Welfare epics indeed.

Go back to Classic.

They are - there are plenty of awards and rewards available to players at different tiers. But you can’t expect to get the best rewards, in all forms of content on one character without significant time and effort investment. In this generation of game not everyone is entitled to the best rewards at the top tiers in all the content.

Back in the day we understood that some rewards were out of reach for the effort and frustration we were willing to put in to attain them. We just accepted that.

This is why when we come back to Classic - many of us having not played modern MMOs - it just makes no sense that we can simply petition to have the requirements removed on the basis that it’s somehow “bad design” to inconvenience players.

Rewards do need to be proportionate to the effort. But not everyone is entitled to the same rewards. If someone is sweaty enough to respec 3 times a week and relevel up professions and whatever it is they need to do to get server firsts and PVP titles, good on them - they should be rewarded. We can get plenty of rewards as it is playing the game very casually.

I’m not lacking gear or gold playing very casually myself.

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Brand-spanking-new games also have ridiculous trials and lengthy grinds to get the best rewards, this isn’t an old school only concept.

But this is a far cry from what anyone is talking about regarding Dual Spec. Dual Spec is a luxury addition to your character, like buying several mounts that let you pick how you want to ride from place to place. The convenience or just the fun of it is entirely the point, but that kind of ready-click-go convenience has a price tag.

WotLK made that price tag a measly 1,000g, so hardly something you have to bend over backwards for since even during WotLK time, most people had little issue getting their alts setup with epic flying.

So make the luxury convenience commensurate with the cost: make it 10k gold. It would take me 100 weeks of scheduled respecs to actually hit this amount, assuming two respecs a week, so it is dramatically overpriced, and yet I would absolutely buy it right now, no turning back, no hesitation.

Dual Spec is little different than buying all bank slots and filling said bank slots with all Gigantique bags. You don’t need it. It doesn’t actually make you a better Raider or PvPer. It just lets you hoard a lot more stuff and lets you ignore clearing out your bag for longer periods of time. It costs a fair hunk of money to get all 22-slot bags, but it also doesn’t break anything just because it is there.

I know that I would love to have dual spec on my Druid so I could do Feral tanking & Restoration roles interchangeably more optimized than a single spec allows… Currently running a 41F/20R feral tank spec, & when I want to heal I just don my healing gear set & make due (which still works fine for non-heroic dungeons & Kara thus far - haven’t tried healing heroics yet with her). Luckily Feral has a few talents that actually helps in the Healing role as well.

I wasn’t aware you could access your bank from anywhere.

Oh wait.

A more comparable way to say it is “you can access your bank and the AH from anywhere”

That’s more what dual spec is like.

Both of those are luxuries and still fulfills the comparison:

WotLK gives us both of these things in the form of pets/profession CDs. Are you going to tell me that the Engineering only AH was on-par with adding Dual Spec? Because if so, it just kinda kills all the angst over it being potentially added.

Your right, so wait for wotlk for dual spec as well, great idea!

Wotlk was the convenience expansion.

Tbc was the rpg inconvenience expansion.

If you don’t like the inconvenience of tbc, wait till wotlk, it’s simple.

There’s plenty of other games to play while you wait.

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Careful, you are getting REALLY close to the problem with MMOs today, and why we have been seeing the emergence of classic MMOs.

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Absolutely this.

History has a funny way of repeating itself, so it’s not exactly surprising that a certain portion of people are trying to drag the game down the same road it already went down but even faster and more expedited by adding said features earlier than they’re supposed to be lol.

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Naw. We already got some other conveniences pushed forward in the timeline that aren’t really expansion specific, Dual Spec will do.

Not conveniences though, more like balances.

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How would you feel if they did more of that? Like, moving LFR and LFD to TBCC. Or maybe Garrisons?

The point i’m making is, let’s not rush to the things that started the eventual decline of Retail. Otherwise, there is no point in having Classic Versions.

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