Why did you ask this question in the way that you did? What was the purpose?
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Your question is whether you should respect his opinion.
What you did is grossly use the social subject of race as a tool to mislead me in to a question about whether you should respect someoneâs opinion because they engage in potentially undesirable behavior. Using the n-word as your vessel to highlight such behavior.
I give you a reasonable answer, that his opinion on dual spec should be respected sure, but his potential racism probably not.
The fact that, in reality, heâs black and can âvalidly useâ the n-word, I guess in this circumstance, doesnât give you any kind of moral conversational win. You just left out information. I also didnât jump to any conclusions. I simply based the premise of my response on the clearly intended goal of your question: to pose a gatchâa.
Youâre disgusting and pathetic.
Nope. I am very meticulous about my wording because I know you like to ask loaded questions. So what I said was:
It was never about whether or not I should. I was asking you if that was what you were saying. Huge difference.
See, if you ask a loaded question, Iâm not going to answer it. Period. Because itâs tailored to trap me. If you were a nuanced individual, as you seem to think you are, then youâd realize that.
You keep on doing this. Do you think by calling your answer âreasonableâ it inherently just makes it so? Thatâs your entire line of dialogue. Everything begins and ends with you, you, you. You think youâre reasonable. Therefore you are. You think Iâm unreasonable. Therefore I am.
Thatâs the beginning and end of any discussion with you. Itâs why you find me annoying, by the way. Because Iâm just not playing that game. Iâm calling your out for exactly who you are and what youâre doing.
Because it wasnât relevant. It was just incidental. You are the one who put a spotlight on it. Not me. I was just mentioning it in passing and even told you thatâs what was going on when you asked me.
Stop attributing ânuanceâ to yourself if you donât understand this.
You arenât even discussing dual spec, nor is this entire distraction youâve created yourself out of thin air even remotely related to why dual spec should be added TBC at the cost of the players who disagree with the mentality of too many changes.
I donât know what point you think youâre making, but itâs still pathetic.
Youâre always welcome to report me for topic deviation if thatâs what you think.
zip very honorable and all continuing to engage him but id recommend just muting him
This may very well have been the straw. Good lookinâ out
In my case it wonât impact me. Prot Paladin in my guild would love to have it, along with a Prot Warrior, a Holy Paladin, and a Rogue who wants to switch between PvP and PVE.
Can you explain exactly what is bad about dual-spec? Iâve asked multiple people about in my guild and there wasnât one person that was against paying 1k gold to be able to dual-spec. It literally makes the game more fun, why wouldnât you want it to be more fun?
For reference, this poster right here, definitely doesnât like fun. This person is also apparently against dual-spec. Makes total sense.
I truly donât think this concept is understood by the people who visit these forums.
In case it hasnât been made clear enough, whether or not the feature is âfunâ is not really related to whether it belongs in the game.
I like dual spec, I think it was a great feature when it got added.
So explain, in your all so well spoken detail, why something that would be fun, and many people would like to have in the game, shouldnât be in the game because it wasnât apart of your precious TBC experience in 2007? Changes have happened, changes are going to continue to happen, this is a change that would be very welcomed by anyone but the #nochanges community. Weâre all okay with same faction BGâs, characters boosts, paladins on the alliance getting their little fun change. No one cares about any of this besides people on this forum. They welcome it, dual spec would allow me to have an affliction spec and a destro spec. Itâd allow my priest friend to be shadow and holy. Itâd allow a tank that canât tank in raid at a specific moment to be holy in raid if necessary. What is the issue? You donât like changes, is that it?
Explain why it should be brought forward. Youâre getting it. Why canât you just wait?
Do you not want anything to look forward to when WoTLK drops?
Financially, it makes zero sense for Bliz too. Itâs a very popular drawcard feature. It will likely pull more people into the game when WoTLK comes. Why give up such a drawcard early for very little return? They want to keep the classic franchise and milk it as much as possible. Why blow all their cards on TBC?
Iâm paying $15/month to play on a server that promises to be as-close-to-TBC-as-possible.
Yes, there are âsome changesâ, however, itâs arguable that those changes have even been good for the game up to this point, depending on the change weâre talking about. Look at arena changes for example, itâs been a disaster. The 58 boost, also a disaster.
It makes the most sense to just default to a set-in-stone guideline that we all know, and therefore cannot contest. The best way to truly experience TBCâŚis make it how it was in TBC.
Iâm not playing here for TBC with features from later expansions added. Iâm playing here to experience TBC without features from later expansions. ThatâsâŚthe entire point of playing an older version of the game. Before dual spec. Before LFD. Before âbring the player not the classâ.
At this point you might as well also have them completely change the classes for better balance, and basically ask for changes in an identical way that people ask for changes in retail. Whatâs even the difference to you?
Iâm sorry you had to deal with this, zipzo. this dual spec âdebateâ is getting ridiculous. I think these proponents are just children who need a firm âNoâ, and nothing more.
As if dual-spec is the only drawcard of WotLK. lmao. It makes perfect sense to keep players playing the game that may be already getting bored with the way it is right now. A small minority of players saying âNoâ shouldnât control what the majority of players would enjoy. This forum holds a very loud minority that likes screaming âNoâ at QoL changes because it may degradate their precious TBC 2007 experience on the Legion engine, with nothing but changes.
Iâm sorry, where is your proof that a large majority want dual spec?
âProofâ Why donât you just talk to people about it within your guild, on your server, anywhere really? See how many people you get actually saying dual-spec would be bad for the game. This forum, with the loudest minority, isnât the best place to gauge player interest.