Hopefully it is tinkers. So many gun models just stuck with hunters.
" I told the witch doctor I was in love with you
I told the witch doctor I was in love with you
And then the witch doctor, he told me what to do
He said that, “Ooh eeh, ooh aah aah
Ting tang wallawalla bingbang
Ooh eeh, ooh aah aah
Ting tang wallawalla bang bang
Ooh eeh, ooh aah aah
Ting tang wallawalla bingbang
Ooh eeh, ooh aah aah
Ting tang wallawalla bang bang” - Ross Bagdasarian (as David Seville), Alvin and the Chipmunks
I suspect the survey is true. However, what I’m thinking is they want to make Tinker the class and they want to make the other options a hero spec for existing classes. The witch doctor bit would actually fit perfectly with either a warlock or a shaman, depending on how they took it. Some of the other options fit perfectly into other classes. I’ve never been able to confirm the validity of the survey, everyone either seems to discredit it, or they find variations of it where certain wording has been changed to suit the narrative of the individual sharing it. If we could ever see the undo copy directly from blizzard, that could certainly tell us a lot more.
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I’d play it, but this is too similar to Shaman.
Omg.
A fellow Brann fan?!?!
Yo, this whole post almost mirrors what I’ve been wanting. I even wrote up a post, never finished it, but it was very similar. I’ll try to find it to add here.
Witch Doctor would be my #1 class to add.
Edit: Found it! I think I was trying to get into some details too much is why I never posted it, but the spirit of it is very similar to what you’ve posted.
Class
Witch Doctor
Specs
Ritualist - Ranged DPS
Phantom - Melee DPS
Blood - Healer
Core Class Mechanics
Summoning Spirits
Concoctions
Resources
Echoes - Some abilities grant Echoes that can then be used on abilities that summon Spirits.
Qty: 3
Ecto - Spending Echoes builds up Ecto. Ecto can be spent to unleash Empowered spells.
Class Buff
Lucid Concoction - Increases Haste by 3%
Interrupt
Witch’s Howl - Witch Doctor pierces the enemy with a terrifying scream, interrupting spell casting.
Crowd Control
Poison Dart - Puts the enemy to sleep for 30 sec, broken by damage. 30 yd range.
Battle Rez
Repossess - The Witch Doctor guides the spirit of the fallen ally back to their body, bringing them back to life with 20% health. For 7 seconds, they will leech 1% health each second from both enemies and allies within 15 yds. 1 Echo.
Execute Ability
VooDoo Doll - The Witch Doctor pierces the doll, striking at the heart of the enemy. Only available when the enemy is at 25% health or less.
Specs
Ritualist
Summons Plagues and Spirits to attack their enemies from afar. Performs a powerful ritual to empower their magic. Utilizes a mix of poison and shadow attacks.
Cooldown
Plagues of Ruin - Summons all plagues at once over the target area. May be cast again during the duration to move the area of effect.
Phantom
The Phantom Witch Doctor specializes in melee combat, summoning spirits mirroring the Witch Doctor’s moves, attacking enemies from behind. An acid concoction can be used to temporarily blind their enemies.
Cooldown
Limbo - Tap into the spirit realm, allowing a powerful spirit to possess you for a short period, granting the ability to use Echo abilities at no cost for 20 sec.
Blood
Healing Concoctions can be thrown on the ground for area healing, or drank for strong self healing. Heals through blood magic, ripping the life from foes to heal yourself, or provide strong healing to allies by sacrificing your own health. A spirit may be summoned to possess a player to protect them from death.
Cooldown
Transfusion - Simultaneously rip the blood of the enemy to heal themselves while sacrificing their own health to heal all allies within 20 yards for 5 seconds.
Previous posts on Witch Doctor:
January '23
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/next-special-class-to-be-cloth/1504483/89
How the hell is phantom not the Farseer hero talent tree?
Because it’s melee instead of ranged?
WD was my favorite class in D3.
How I wish I could throw Jars of Spiders at people in WoW. Or a wave of Toads.
I haven’t tried Farseer. Leveled Totemic and switched to Stormbringer. Reading on it, though, I can see how it would sound similar.
Under “Resources” I state that “Echoes can be used on abilities that summon Spirits.” In my mind, this is not similar to Farseer in that they would not stick around for a period of time. The abilities work more like a Paladin’s Holy Power in that you would need the Echoes to use the ability, and the spirit disappears after the ability animation. Possibly there’s a cd to summon them to stick around for longer?
Whatever it could turn out being, anyone trying to compare Shamans to being WoW’s Witch Doctors ain’t it. Shamans are very heavily elemental magic based, more in tune with nature.
Witch Doctors should have no “nature” connection and instead be more focused on spirits, death magic, and decay. WoW classes have become so homogenized in their mechanics that all they are now are class fantasy flavor with the visuals. So yes, there will be some overlap with how other classes work just like there currently is with the existing classes. People just want the “Witch Doctor” flavor to be fulfilled.
tinker just comes across as an engineer but that doesn’t stop people from begging for it
No it doesn’t because professions are not classes.
Same reason why we don’t think hunters aren’t tinkers just because they use guns.
So…a 4th Shaman spec with alchemy thrown in? Cause Shamans are Witch doctors, practitioners of spiritual and alchemical arts.
Or in the very least, they have some major overlapse. Both heal using spiritual/natural remedies and rites and rituals.
Someone with privileges needs to link that old song.
Tiny Tim voice “Sorreh sir, I lost me privileges, I am poor now.”
How is it not?
Fel magic involves making sacrifices to demons to forge pacts with them that give you power over shadow and fire.
Voodoo magic involves making sacrifices to loa to forge pacts with them that give you power over shadow and… life, I guess?
Seems like mostly a matter of terminology to me.
“Loa is the name given by trolls to the beings they worship, such as the Wild Gods, beings such as Kith’ix or G’huun, or spirits like wisps.” Voodoo as a type of animistic practice and magic. The belief is that all things even in inanimate objects in nature have souls. Voodoo Witch Doctors understand how to awaken the spirits in all things and have them do their bidding. Voodoo is shadow magic. It does involve sacrifice but Fel is a chaotic energy that formed when Light and Void met at the beginning of the Universe forming. Fel often causes users to become corrupted and mutate. Voodoo is a Spirit and Shadow based magic. You need to read about the cosmological forces in wow. In Voodoo the sacrifice is to the Loa and in Fel Magic the sacrifice is to harvest the soul for energy to feed the Fel. Fel is not a being like Loa. Fel is an energy. Voodoo has more than sacrifice to it. It has spirit mediumship, manipulation of natural forces, and worship ect… Warlocks do not function the same way.
So shamans