Remove Festering Wounds mechanic and replace with following:
Festering Scythe - Causes your disease damage to occur 100% more quickly for 10 sec
Scourge Strike - An unholy strike that deals X Physical damage and X Shadow damage. If Scourge Strike hits a target with Virulent Plague, there is a X% chance to summon a Ghoul
Remove All Will Serve line and add in talents that modifies Festering Scythe and Scourge Strike
Example, Festering Scythe drops D&D, Free Festering Scythe based on X, Scourge Strike randomly summons Magus of the Dead or Exploding Zombies
Remove Apocalypse (redundant with Army of the Dead)
Frost
Obliterate deals half Frost damage by default
Killing Machines makes Obliterate full Frost damage, and no longer guarantees Crit (been suggested numerous times by many)
Re-tune all abilities accordingly
Cleaving Strikes removed for Frost
Frost Scythe tuned for AoE instead of Cleaving Strikes (been suggested numerous times by many)
20s Breath of Sindragosa choice node (movable Eye Beam)
The hilarious part of this wishlist is blizz is going to hit us with another nerf probably to something that wasn’t even an issue to begin with, like a frost scythe nerf it’s a sad day to be a DK
Love the Frost stuff i just want to bring up Remorseless Winter and Rime needing alot more weight behind them. RW, Glacial Advance, and Frost Scythe and Icy death torrent need to be our AOE damage profile. If Obliterate cleave exist at all there just needs to be a talent that makes it hit 2-3 other targets during pillar. Rime needs to feel like a big hit for single target. Also Hyperpyrexia is on the same row as Icy death torrent and not even half as strong.
The BoS idea is super interesting. Like RW but just a frontal? Idk how the rotation would function due to how it currently cost RP per sec. I think its current power would be way to strong just have it going while being able to spam GA in aoe. I think it would have to cost like 60-100 RP and just be a 4-6s channel on a 45s-1m CD.
Inexorable assault and avalanche also have laughable tuning.
I’d be onboard with some of this, not all. Apocalypse should remain, and All Will Serve needs to be fixed instead of getting removed. It’s a very thematically appropriate talent to have, but Blizzard’s insistence on making it suck has lead to it rarely seeing use over the years.
Seeing festering wounds removed in favor of further ramping up dot damage would be a most welcome change indeed. Put simply, festering wounds are just combo points on crack. Their implementation is horribly dated at this point, and UH is already such an involved spec that they really don’t add anything to it anymore in terms of gameplay.
Festering Scythe replacing Festering Strike (and enhancing our dots) would likewise be a welcome change. There was a time when most of UH’s damage was in fact in its dots, not its pets. I’d love to see a return to the old ways, where the pets and cooldowns, while obviously important, aren’t such a heavy focus that we’ve got next to no damage outside of burst windows.
Oh, and Defile needs to be baseline already. This is getting ridiculous. It’s been how many years?
Remove the chance on auto attack critical strikes to proc X on all the abilities, so there is more stat balance. KM, icy death torrent should have a flat proc chance on auto attack (like sudden doom for unholy).
DnD is such an iconic DK ability, I don’t want them to remove it. Just build it into a high chance to proc on obliterate, or like paladins with consecration.
Unholy:
Army choice node between army of the dead or abom with 1.5 min CD. Abom can be more ST with disease spread and AoTD can have it’s own benefit, like ghoul taunt every x sec.
It’s supposed to do that now, but an October patch broke it. They simply haven’t bothered to fix it - or even acknowledge there’s a problem, for that matter. Was the same patch that nerfed our dots and death coil into the ground for PvP.
On the fence about wounds, maybe if there was a thoughtful and engaging replacement, otherwise unholy ends up as brain dead a spec as old ranged survival hunter was back in wrath.
We already have plaguebringer filling the dot enhancement role.
Indifferent about scythe for the most part; plays well in m+ however.
Apoc is fine.
Each spec having their own baseline variant of death and decay would be appropriate.
Frost is a whole other bag of worms. Needs a grounds up rework; all they did moving into tww was shift dead talents, attempted to rework scythe only to make it useless, ditch 2h in the rearview mirror, and change DB enough to reinforce slot machine mechanics and RNG. Rider oblit feels smooth in m+ even though its behind, the drive by oblit nerfs were unwarranted.
I remain as disappointed in the class dev responsible as I have in the past. Frost deserved a full rework and instead got some half baked changes. Without going down the road of properly equalizing 2h and DW, or restricting frost to a singular weapon type, this spec is always going to be a roller coaster.
I’m probably in the minority here, but I was hoping Blizz would have removed Apoc back in BFA, I never liked the ability but I decided to just bear through it for legion, as we were promised Artifact weapons were just for one expo.
Hell I think the whole legion rework was a mistake, but it’s now existed for 4 expos, where the version I liked only lasted 2 so I’ll probably just have to wait for MoP classic and give up on live.
I don’t like most of those frost changes. Killing machine crits make the spec fun imo. Frost doesn’t play too bad right now, they just need to fix a few things and it would play much nicer. Here’s what I’d like to see:
-Razorice OR fallen crusader is always applied passively through talents. That would let both 2h and dw specs use all talent options without having to worry about weapon enchant.
-Get rid of this “proc on auto attack crit” nonsense. Give killing machine a flat rate to proc. Same goes with the long winter, enduring strength, etc. Just make them a set duration and be done with it.
-Buff or dispose of the dead talents. Cold heart is dumb. Horn of winter should be buffed and taken off gcd. Buff frostscythe so it’s both a good single target and multi-target ability.
-Deaths due glyph and an animation for shattering blade. Please lol.
Killing Machine auto-crit accounts for a huge percentage of the damage profile, so when the damage is redistributed, other skills like Remorseless Winter and Rime will feel better to use.
About BoS choice node, I was thinking of something similar to what you proposed. ~50 RP, ~4 seconds of Breath. ~20 seconds CD. Usage similar to the flamethrower given in the Earthcrawl Mines Delve.
Apoc really is a pretty bad ability nowadays.
It kinda served a purpose when Festermight wasn’t like ironfur and we didn’t have doomed bidding. Now we grab a bunch of talents just to make it mediocre. There is a reason most people are dropping it in the M+ build now.
So yah prune that crap.
Change Gargoyle and Abom so that they add to Army instead of replacing it. Imagine having your pet, Garg/Magus, Abom, ghouls and horsemen every 1.5mins…pretty peak summoner fantasy for Unholy.
I don’t know if you have enough there to replace wounds, but I do support removing them for something better. Main thing that comes to mind, as always, is Necrotic Plague.
Cleaving strikes needs to die for all specs. One of the worst things to happen to this class as a whole. DnD can go back to being more of a utility ability or just some extra damage if you have nothing else.
I only play DK for fun, but I feel like the most important change needed is being overlooked. Death Charge…needs to be placed in the Normal DK Tree. Its become something I don’t want to play without.
it’s a sad day to be a DK