Wintergrasp

PVP Battlegrounds
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Why?
It’s not pvp all you get is gank by tanks.I may be one of the few that hates this BG.

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I meant to post on my mage.

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Yeah I’m right there with ya OP. That’s my only real “gripe” with Wintergrasp and Isle of Conquest: there’s just too much of a PvE element and it somewhat detracts from the overall experience imo :thinking:

I don’t really enjoy the “comp stomp” brawl for similar reasons… fighting against PvE bots is just NOT the same experience as fighting against actual human beings that are unpredictable/clever/creative/etc. Even though the AI brawl is “free wins” according to the forums, I barely did the brawl… only did like 3-4 games this past week.

now Southshore vs Tarren Mill on the other hand, now there’s a quality bg map with it’s non-stop PvP action from start to finish :sweat_smile:

TL;DR

PvP is more fun than PvE

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The one thing I don’t mind about the Comp Stomp is it being used as a stepping stone into PvP. But I’d say remove any kind of rewards from it. Or maybe have it give some sort of starter gear for fresh 120’s. Only giving you a Combatant type of gear that only goes up to a certain ilvl.

Fresh 120’s should be taking the time learning their level capped spec/class anyway. But that’s just my two Lincoln’s.

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*complains about siege weaponry.
*Ignores the direct counter of 500 cannons placed on the map.

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Still going to mention that they didn’t fix the machine bugs from 10 years ago (disconnecting & freezeup).
Its nice to have a different epic BG but they said they would bring us back Ashran and ninja brought back this one. I will assume the reason IS because they could simply just add it in without doing any work and with Ashran they will actually have to do some work.

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Wintergrasp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trashcan

Ashran was never even finished, and ended up being a series of nonsensical minigames cobbled together with a foundation that didn’t really work. IDK why there’s so many who miss it that much.

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AV has NPCs and a lot of uneven fighting, and IoC has vehicle combat.

ebgs imo are more about map control and strategy than direct pvp, if you want a greater focus on team play, do bgs, and if you want a pure focus on pvp, do arena.

body is too similar to what i recently posted because blizzard forum software is ret@rded.

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Love this BG wish they would put it in the Epic Battleground Rotation.

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we discussed this a bit already in the ebg feedback thread if you want to post there, here’s a link to where the conversation starts:

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Me too friend :upside_down_face:

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I do BG 99% of the time that’s what I love to do It has been that way from day one for me.my favorite BG’s is Arathi Basin, Eye of the Storm and now Southshore v’s Tarren Mill and AV is fun when it turn in to a big battle.

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The sieges are too powerful against players. Figure that out and maybe this BG could be decent enough. Right now it’s just awful.

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Yeah it definitely seems to be a balance issue. Once one team reaches a “critical mass” of vehicles (say, 12+ vehicles) they can just run over/steamroll the other team :roll_eyes:

If you are facing 12+ vehicles you just get melted by all the random “splash damage” they constantly rain down on you and your team can’t really fight back. Yeah, there’s the RPGs… but those have a cast time and are interrupted by damage (which is pretty much constant with all the “splash damage” of this bg).

This vehicles problem is much less severe in Isle of Conquest because at any given time there’s only like 4-5 vehicles your team has to deal with. But in Wintergrasp you can literally be facing a giant “death ball” of 14+ demos and siege engines :grimacing:

I would say Isle of Conquest is “properly balanced” in terms of vehicles - the vehicles hit hard, but there’s not 14+ of them driving around. On the other hand in Wintergrasp there can literally be 12+ enemy vehicles on the map and ALL of them have both high damage + “splash damage” :grimacing:

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huh?

/10char

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sorry, meant that to mean all the vehicles. The sieges are the weakest of the 3 but still can kill you

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As it should. Your team (should) have 12 vehicle slots, get in one yourself. Or grab a rocket launcher. I think it’s great how it is. Riding shotgun in the siege is pretty convenient too. Cast while moving!

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Agree wholeheartedly. I’m actually liking IoC these days. Certainly a lot better than it used to be. I backfilled a WG where horde had every workshop and were just slaughtering while the 5 minutes left ticked down.

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Oh definitely, IOC is actually kinda relaxing after you get out of a Wintergrasp match hehe :sweat_smile:

Wintergrasp is much more stressful/chaotic

IOC is almost like a watered down version of WG and honestly I think most casuals prefer it to Wintergrasp :thinking: I’ve already seen my share of random casuals saying stuff like “oh this again, time to afk” or “ugh, why does this keep popping?” during the pre-game 2 minutes of a fresh Wintergrasp match

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sieges hp need a buff. getting destroyed by 1 person bad design.

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