Wintergrasp can go to Hell

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We both know why you picked those numbers. How many times did you have to slide that bar to get one that didn’t have horde at 70% representation? How are the top 5000 players?? Where are the top 2000 players?? Stop cherry picking information so you can pretend the faction imbalance is imaginary.

Also I’m still waiting to find out where “that point” is that alliance should be at to get blizzard to intervene.

I’ve accepted that most of you don’t want real talk. You just want your forum presence known.

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tbf there is a big difference between arena and ebgs, builds and playstyles all have to account for this. bis arena meta generally doesn’t do much in WG. though im curious who Puntsized was referring too since ebgs are completely unranked.

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everything after 2200 is less than 70%

They were talking about non random pvp

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but ebgs are where the main faction imbalance is, everything else is pretty balanced as far as i can tell.

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I think the bigger problem is not “who” is dominating, it’s that one “can”.

They need to look into solutions that would encourage both sides to have pockets of high endgame play, instead of the pendulum of kneejerk over-fixes that have been the norm for some time.

That said, BG’s are way more even than they were earlier in the expansion. EBG’s are the current Alliance hot mess.

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Which having separate pvp ranks per faction has somewhat done. It used to be “look at the top 100 and there’s 3 Alliance” Now if you look at that page it’s almost exactly 50/50

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Yep it’s a step in the right direction for sure. People often overlook the fact there are incentives to push rating Alliance-side.

Granted those people won’t be in yolos, but they are there.

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Alliance are currently beaten down. Being the underdog faction expansion after expansion will do that.

Finding groups for high end content as an alliance player is much harder than it is for horde due to the lack of players at those levels. It’s a self perpetuating cycle that is largely ignored by blizzard and disregarded by the forum dwellers.

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Horde is also more attractive for other reasons. They’ve written the Alliance into the corner storywise, there’s literally nothing interesting happening and they’re not really in a position for anything interesting to be done with them, since they have been the “undaunting good guys” for how long now?

Meanwhile our storyline is given options for rebellion, subterfuge, restoring things that were lost. Alliance isn’t close to a spot they could write them as having “lost honor” or anything. And if they tried that by having the Alliance murder babies or something, people would cry and cry and cry. You know they would.

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I was starting to resent where the storyline is at for horde but you make me appreciate it. :+1:

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You’re probably going to beat me up over this. I really don’t know none of the storylines I know about the tree burning but that’s it. The one thing I truly love to do in this game is killing horde that it. lol

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Idk the story either. Just like Bgs either faction, whoever has shortest queues usually.

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I was in WG the other day and it dawned on me that the defending team can afk in the keep and pretty much win unless enough attacking people are able to get enough rank from npc kb’s to get demos and take out all the walls in 45 minutes

Anyhow…yeah WG sucks

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Yo Bliz, no one likes WG. Make it a brawl again. Vehicle combat sucks.

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I like it. Speak for yourself, please.

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I leave WG pretty much every time I queue into it now. No need to waste 30 minutes in there when I just take the 15 minute debuff.

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:+1:

Yeah it seems a good % of Ally just AFK out of this one, and I don’t blame them at all. Depending on how bad the loss is, like half the Ally team can end up being rank-less backfillers :joy:

And it’s actually worse then 30 minutes, because by the time the first teamfight finishes there’s usually still like 38-42 minutes left on the clock :grimacing:

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Honestly. blizz should implement a “mercy” rule for this BG. I.E for each second the defense has 20+ vehicles the clock ticks 5x faster or something. That would eliminate alot of the pain in this BG

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After towers are destroyed, it’s 15 minutes less. More often than not the bg is over anywhere from 10-30 minutes.

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Let’s be honest now Juga, if you’re defending and lose that first teamfight… you ain’t gettin anywhere near the towers :joy: