Yes exactly that day
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Those truly were the best days. When being decked in purples meant something. You’d be level 27 in ironforge inspecting dudes in 8/8 might thinking, yea boi. That’s gonna be me right there. Yee yee
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You can play TBC right now almost exactly as it was.
The game, not the players, which have taken it upon themselves to drastically change the way the game is played.
Why not a middle ground between the two? I don’t think people expect WoW to just revert to how it was during vanilla or the start of TBC.
Imo it wasn’t the addition of things new expansions brought that hurt this game it was the constant need to hit a reset button after every single expansion that hurt it. It started with the gear reset in TBC and Wrath, then it continued with the class balance resets going into Cata and new system designs that went forward.
Things like barber shop, transmog, LFR, Mythic+ dungeons all enhanced and opened up the game for many, while pruning, revamping classes, and gating stuff behind annually resetting grinds diminished it.
people play it in Classic. I think we should bring back attunements so players can see meaningful progression of their toons again.
Classic did not have a bunch of customization. That was part of its problem. We have that NOW.
Meaningful choices, we still have some, just not as much. However, that’s because people don’t actually want meaningful choices, they want to know exactly what is “best” for whatever they are playing. The best talents, best gear, best enchants, best rotation, that’s the only thing that matters.
What we DID have were consequences, especially in our social interactions. Right now, you can jump in and out of groups, act however you want during the groups, and leave and you will likely never see those people again. Back during Classic when server movement was more limited, if you did something like that, word would get around about “Baddie Warrior” or “Ninja Rogue” and you would either have to live under that cloud, OR you could simply “not be that guy” and play nice with others.
Legion was a step back towards the “old days” as far as gameplay is concerned, but they took it in the wrong direction in BfA and SL (basically floating the AP system through 3 expansions). As far as the community aspect is concerned, they need a less “open” system for transfers and server connections. You won’t ever get back to a “community” feel if you can operate basically as a single player in a multi-player game. Anyone who thinks playing completely solo in an MMO is a valid gameplay style is seriously misunderstanding the game type entirely.
This is something else that could work if we just tried to find a middle ground. We don’t need the crazy long Onyxia or TBC styled attunements but a simple quest chain that incentivizes things like running dungeons or killing a world boss could work with all the stuff we have in modern wow.
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it’s much better now than it was then, so hopefully not
or shards, or ankhs, or seeds, or powders…
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Classic is best left in the past. WoW does need a better social appeal but it shouldn’t pull from Classic.
FF would be a good start. Do what it does but better. Make actual normal content that players work to overcome. Provide hardcore content for hardcore players. Gear people actually want to work towards. Stuff like that.
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Nope.
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Alot of ppl take this out of context… im not saying lets bring the game back exactly like classic… that’s obviously not going to happen what im saying is will it ever get to that level of fun as it did back then im not saying delete every system in current wow and put the vanilla system in, no that’s what im saying at all
How is it out of context when you said Wrath and TBC? TBC is available right now if you want to go torture yourself. It is quite literally a mind numbing single player experience. Multiplayer is better but good luck getting runs in lower level content.
Also enjoy only being able to take on one mob at a time. Wrath changed things for the better but it had its annoyances too. Talent trees do not add variety into the game. They force players into mind max scenarios because other players will hold you accountable.
They were amazing for their time. We should draw very little from them when there’s another game that achieves their goal while being far more progressive.
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I have played tbc classic and i enjoy it i have 2 lvl 70s in p2 gear like i said i was wondering if the game will ever be as good as it was im not saying bring back hunter amo or shaman anks or shards or lvling weapons all im trying to say if it will ever return to that level in this day and age
If we’re here in 15 years. Possibly we’ll have this same conversation about Shadowlands. It’ll be oh, I miss Torghast, the maw, this dungeon, that covenant ability, servers didn’t have xyz, and how awesome the scourge invasion was
Of course, right now most people would say…nope never. It was the WORST day of muh life.
I cannot talk about WoW prior to 2016 because I didn’t play then but I can talk about being there for launch of Diablo 2…I’d rather be playing D3 or the next game.
I have fond FOND memories of 1999 through 2005 playing the heck out of it, but I cannot recapture that magic now with resurrected.
I might pop in for a second or two, but the wave of emotion doesn’t make me want to relive it; I want to keep those great memories as they were. Same happened to me with Doom 2, Morrowind, and finally Skyrim. There’s just this point where you cannot recapture the magic of the past: the good, the bad, the ugly.
I look forward to new stuff and so far WoW is doing it for me.
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It’s funny when people always post this but how about tell us why BC and Wrath was so much better? End game in both of those was ONLY raid or pvp. BC was 32487498 times more grindier than today. You didn’t get your free weekly loot either. Leveling was insanely boring back then. The zones were meh. I remember seeing lots of posts of people posting about how fast they would try and rush through BC/Wrath content when they were leveling alts just before the new way to level.
Don’t get me wrong, BC (as well as Vanilla) and Wrath will always hold a special place to me but mostly because of the people I played with. But when I look back at the actual gameplay, there wasn’t much but still had to put in tons of hours to raid and grind rep.
So please tell us why you liked it so much better? Me personally, I am glad I don’t have to put in anywhere that amount of time again.
vanilla is completely dead, tbc is dead except for like 3 servers and wrath will be the same.
Your expectations were lower back then, by todays standards the old versions of wow have no content.
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What made TBC and Wrath good? IMO it was the leveling experience, not end-game. Raiding was neat, the game was still new-ish to a lot of people, the world was active.
Will we ever get that back? Probably not. Will leveling ever be a great experience again? Probably not.
But I feel like end-game is constantly improving. Just not enough for the casual/solo player to replace what leveling used to be.
I don’t get why you are asking for the current game to change when they went through the trouble of recreating classic servers for you. Go there and play that.
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Short answer no. Longer answer, they took away the casual game, so no.
The playerbase from 2005 is now 17 years older. That means jobs, families, responsibilities. We had time back then, we don’t now. I just don’t have the time to spend waiting on tanks and healers anymore. I don’t have the time to raid anymore. Judging by the numbers a lot of people don’t either.
Bring back the casual nature of the game circa 2007-2010 and players might come back.
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