get me a better fight bro I am open to it.
send me your name I pv you in the game with it.
Iâm not in game. Just put it in the threadâŚ
snoz its fine - no flame wars necessary here
thats the point bro I didnt like to put it in thread lol whenever you logged in tell me:) I would be happy to get any guidance from you.
I wasnât going to flame him. I was just overall curious.
Heâs probably just trolling anyways.
have I messaged you to troll you bro? I made a comment here to blizzard to make an improvement on destro, sry to deliver it to wrong number lol, maybe here its not blizzard forum.
Warlocks buffs mid expansion? hahahahahahaha
Our niche is a rework every two expansions. and debuffs all throughout with perhaps one buff or two so the bias isnât displayed outright.
You made a post claiming 250 ilvl and youâre saying you burst up to 20k on the nine.
You wonât post your locks name which me tells me youâre either trolling or just lying.
I never said right now. I am sure blizzard check threads once in a while. and I dont understand the toxicity here. some peopleâŚ
I just dont understand them.
if you do better than me, good for you.
if you dont get my point thats also fine I never insulted anyone.
I just wish they read not players obviously.
I said I am close to 250 which means I am 249,
I said I am dealing that damage which is what I do.
I dont post my locks name because I dont like and I am not good with social media and public posts and it is my concern.
and you can think anyway you like bro. I never posted it for you.
Iâll leave it at this - Destro lives and dies by 2 things: fight design and how lazy your guild is at target swapping. take it from someone who is considered relatively decent at destro, it is in a fine state tuning wise, we just do not have a fight that shows it right now. we dont have a hivemind or a huntsman to have consistent 2T cleave throughout a fight for destro to shine. it does not need numeric changes outside maybe a small CB buff if that, it needs fights that have consistent 2T to get more than 1 havoc every minute.
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I agree, I think a proc eventhough with a small probability on chaos bolt really helps, being able to do something while you move beside conflagrate really helps, the buff to shadowburn really doesnt help because its effectiveness is really depending on the low hp that for example on a fight like Sylvanas is not viable at all and that you lose a talent that really helps with haste.
yeah I agree a buff to chaos bolt can really help and not with the damage of it maybe with casting time or a proc or something like that in my opinion
People definitely run Demon Skin and the amount of damage it can eat is actually impressive. That tier is definitely not just Death Pact vs Burning Rush at all.
Napkin math says a Destro lock could solo soak Crushing Gaze on the Nine as well. My Lock has 56.2K HP without an armor kit. Gaze does 90,174 damage. UR is a 40% DR. My lock has (low) 34% Mastery. Which is a 3.8% DR + ([0.0-1.0 random] * 3.8%) DR.
90,174 * .6 = 54,104.4 No Mastery.
90,174 * (.543) = 48,964.482 With a mid-roll on the Mastery DR
Without base Soul Leech, an armor kit, or any level 30 talent (no Dark Pact, no Demon Skin), youâve now soloed soaked Gaze as a lock. For testing, I tried out Dark Pact in Org 15 seconds ago, and my absorb as 40,027.
48,964.482 - 40,027 = ~8,937 damage.
Without Soul Leech or an armor kit, weâve now used Dark Pact plus our defensive ability with a mid-tier Mastery roll to take a < 9k damage hit from a solo soak. You could eat that and cast Coil to self sustain yourself without a single external heal and still have overhealing on the Coil cast.
Stop being overdramatic.
Also, mythic Nerâzul certainly has a few small portions of meaningful burst in shatter windows, but Demon Skin on that fight is super potent. That fight screams rot damage. A warlock running Demon Skin on that fight could 2k HPS with decent coil use.
On top of that, Painsmith also has a ton of rot damage from the fire DoT.
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I get what you mean, my hp is 58140 without anything, but all the calculation you did is based on assuming you have full hp when the swirly comes and honestly bro I dont have the best guild that can keep me full hp all the time and I dont blame them for it, I myself do mistakes, they do mistakes and if I am not full hp dark pact is not gonna give me that amount of hp. but bro more importantly I was talking about one shot mechanics but I get what you mean.
on nerzul the mass dispel is a huge burst of dmg and requires dark pact and honestly I never saw anyone with demon skin on that fight. I am sure you know what I meant with what I posted. destro needs a buff if you think it doesnt ok maybe its my problem.
but do you think destro is in a good situation in SOD damage wise?
if yes ok I have nothing to say.
maybe its my problem.
If there were more fights that were like Huntsman from Nathria, itâd be different but as Cheeze said, SoD doesnât play too well with Destro. Too many fights have low HP adds that show up and get melted. I said it in another thread but if they took Cataclysm, added a +100% damage when it hits only one target modifier to it, it would practically fix Destro ST in one move. Thatâs how close it is.
Even on Mythic Eye, the distance requirement can screw you over depending on what strat your guild uses. On Soulrender, weâre not terrible but the cadence of the adds doesnât work well at all. Nerzhul? Balls die too quickly. Painsmith? Balls die too quickly. KT? scattered low health adds. Sylvanas? mostly ST, lots of movement, only meaningful havoc usage is on P2 with Goliath/Souljudge combos but even those melt.
Destro has great damage potential but the formula for great success certainly isnât in SoD unless your group sucks at target swapping (and mechanics, by proxy).
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bro we have WW and close to my ilvl or maybe more I dont remember. and believe me I dont even see the adds on some fights lol, on the eye its really hard to deal damage to the add yeah I agree maybe 2-3 chaos bolts and its dead since melee players deal huge damage while they run.
the only fights that are viable are the 9 and KT which I told you on the 9 opener I do good damage but probabely not as others do.
well its hard to ask blizzard to design a fight for destro but I guess a buff to destro would be fine in the next patch or expansion.
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Havenât been playing Destro all that long, but my first impression is Destro needs Cataclysm baseline AND the CD should be reduced by 3 seconds per target hit. (It should cap the reduction to ~18 seconds so you canât spam Cataclysm on 10+ targets.) The talent I would put in place of Cataclysm would be one that affects Shadowfury so that it inflicts considerable damage and also shortens the CD stacking with Darkfury below.
Those 2 changes would probably go a long way to helping Destro in the areas where itâs lagging right now.