Thanks to her, my Night Elf Darkfallen Night warrior black eyed Warlock was born! (Yes I know I can’t mix the 2 it’s just a fun headcanon I roleplay with, imagining my eyes look pitch black with a tiny red pupil similar to Eredar added Void eyes, god i WISH I could use does!)
He is ready to massacre the Horde, burn or “PURGE” cities etc etc (insert war hideous acts here) in the name of vengeance, justice for the Alliance or whatever the Alliance narrative will let me get away with!! I’m sure ill be forgiven for sure!
Joking to the side I be ok for her to return… but I hope she comes some cool narrative or story to help the forsaken through whatever “favors”, allies or knowledge she gain while in the SL fulfilling her mission.
She was never depowered so I know also a few people who love having OP characters as their Faction Leaders, will be happy to have such a God-tier Horde Leader back. (IMO)
Dard was talking about the broken shore and how the alliance did NOT initially know the horde was retreating due to being overwhelmed.
Though that doesn’t really align with Genn and Varian looking up and all they see are demons peering down at that them. How they could possibly take that as a betrayal is beyond me
Edit: I wasn’t disagreeing with you. Just trying to clarify things
Im pretty sure most characters had plenty of reasons to go and try kill Sylvanas. Thats the main problem of her character, she has double crossed everyone so many times at this point its not even funny.
She quite clearly had so much plot armor just because someone in the writing team simped for her.
They were ordered not to unless they found reason. They admit they will attack her either way. There is no argument to this debate: the Alliance tried to kill the Warchief during the most dangerous moment in Azeroths entire history up until that point.
See, they thought they had been betrayed therefore its justified, specially when you consider how insidious and backstabbing Sylvanas has been in the past.
And she tried to assassinate Genn in the worgen starting zone and never answered for it… until Stormheim when Genn attacked her. So I’d call it even.
Except Sylvanas was doing something underhanded… We know this cause the canon order of the Legion zones is that Azsuna happens first before Stormheim, and in Azsuna you find a forsaken journal that says Sylvanas is after something powerful and is overall ominous which you then turn into Genn.
I just watched the cinematic. They hear a horn, look up, see Sylvanas’ archers back away from the cliff. Varian says, “No… she wouldn’t.” And Genn says, “I knew we couldn’t trust her!”
It was pretty clear from the ALLIANCE perspective, that it looked like the Horde set them up to die, so it isn’t crazy to think that they might be mad at the Horde especially since that led to Varian dying. (Again WE the players know that is not how it went down, but for the character in universe it looked like a betrayal 100%)
The same way Sylvanas and the Horde did to Gilneas? That was an act of war. Genn was just retaliating.
The alliance and horde agreed to an armistice.
Genn violated that armistice with admiral kill horde to attempt to assassinate the Warchief of the horde as the legion invades.
Thats also not the narrative that we were given. They went to war because it was a strategically advantageous time to go to war, Saurfang had to admit that peace wouldn’t last forever and Orgrimmar was strategically vulnerable if Stormwind rebuilt its navy. They went to war because Sylvanas (for her own reasons) made a logical argument to Saurfang that it was the only war they could win and any inevitable later war they would lose.
One might argue that the Alliance would never be the aggressor and therefore war was not inevitable, but that is a boring game setting if that were ACTUALLY the case.
Edit: AND IIRC, The Alliance proved that they were still willing to make aggressive moves against the horde. If they were not, Teldrassil would not have been left vulnerable, Sylvanas’ and Saurfang’s deception would not have worked. The Alliance spies in Org would not have been fooled and the Alliance would not have sent its navy to stop her from getting Azerite. Its like they say “You can’t con an honest man”. Alliance animosity caused them to fall into Sylvanas and Saurfang’s trap. They are not “innocent”.
Why do you think this is a terrible idea? This is the best solution that came to my mind to at least partially satisfy both sides. If the part of Sylvanas that committed all these crimes with a smile on her face is still inside the body, it is impossible for her to return to Azeroth and unite with her people.
Because that wouldn’t appease anyone. Most Alliance players wouldn’t like it because its just a get out of jail free card that washes away any accountability for what she has done and most Horde players won’t like it because it will probably take away most of the snark that we like about her.
Well, Godfrey did get to enact his own revenge when he shot Sylvanas in the back of the head during Silverpine questing. Had to use one of her extra life Val’kyr.
So, aside from the problem of that quest with the Forsaken journal being doable by Horde or Alliance players, making it questionable if it was the Horde or the Alliance that did it…
Genn and Rogers on the Skyshield flat out tell you they’re looking for an excuse to attack the Horde fleet there, which they wouldn’t need to be doing if they really had gotten that journal.
Further, later on in the zone Greymane and Lorna Crowley admit they don’t know what the Horde are even doing in Stormheim or why they’re there.
The Broken Shore event up to that point is punctuated multiple times by Sylvanas shouting down at Varian to hurry up and take out Gul’dan while the Horde holds the ridge. Moreover, that horn Genn and Varian are surprised by is the signal to retreat.
It’s understandable why Genn would be angry about what happened at the Broken Shore, blaming the Horde for it would be in character for him, but it doesn’t vindicate his and Roger’s attack on the Horde and Stormheim, especially since
Genn launched an attack on the Horde during an armistice, while the biggest demon invasion of Azeroth to ever happen was going on. The invasion of Gilneas happened before Deathwing triggered the Cataclysm and put the entire planet at risk, and it wasn’t even Sylvanas who started the invasion of GIlneas mind you, it was Garrosh. She just took over once the fight had started cause Garrosh would throw the Forsaken into the meatgrinder and get them all killed.
It reads like Genn wanted to take down Sylvanas before the world ended, even if it meant he’d be screwing the entire war war effort to stop the Legion.
Defending Genn here would be like defending that Horde battle force that attacked the Alliance from the rear while they were in the middle of fighting the Scourge in Icecrown Glacier.
