Youre exactly what im talking about a person who refuses to just ask questions and expects a MMO to be a single player game.
You just want to ruin the fun of the game so me and many others are done.
Seems like the same old story.
M+ wasnât designed for pugging, and you donât seem interested in playing with guildies or finding a solid group to play with regularly.
Youâve clearly far exceeded the average though. Expecting to be able to do top-tier, highest-possible end-game content without guildies or a group of friends seems like an unreasonable request.
See ya next season!
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Again you make expections from a MMO to cater to solo players. Then got upset that a MMO thats designed for multipler requires you to do multipler activities
Enjoy the higher concentration of people like yourself.
Thanks i guess. I mean i play a MMO to play and meet other people like a majority of other players. Youre just in the loud minority. You guys spend more time complaining on thr forms. Get given solutions then complain about the solutions. Nothing is ever good enough for you.
Edit: you could just apologize for being a jerk btw and ask to game with me im more then happy to play and help anyone
Itâs crazy ainât it? I have to sit for like 30 minutes as well, to get into a +8 key on my surv hunter alt. 625 ilvl.
People just donât want to take chances anymore. Understandably so tbh.
It still blows if you want to gear an alt. And every key I join on where I get declined nonstop, I end up with least deaths, most interrupts and highest DPS at the end.
People donât know that information when they see my name in the queue. All they see is ilvl and Rio. And there is always people with higher of both queuing aswell. Now they could be the totally worse player. But there is no indicator for that.
And that is why you sit in queue for a long time playing decline simulator.
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Tanking and healing becomes way too challenging at low levels if mechanics are performed incorrectly. It makes many people reluctant to take chances on anyone at all, regardless of level.
And letâs not even get started on people who have obviously paid for boosts and want 3k/636 ilvl players to carry them in their boosted key 
Tanks and healers just need to be easy to play at all levels. Itâs the only viable solution IMHO to allow the average player to complete more dungeons.
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To all replying âi have no problems getting into groupsâ, âmake friendsâ, ârun your own keyâ and âM+ is not designed for puggingâ:
Yes, you get into groups if you are overqualified. Meaning you timed the key already. But this doesnât bring you one step further.
Yes, you can run your own key and i do that a few times a week. But for the keys i do (+14/+15) one of 4 or 5 attempts is successful. So it very likely to deplete multiple times and its simply not fun to try push it again from a +11.
Maybe it was not designed for pugging, but 95% of the community mainly pugs even though they despise pugging. Seems like its not so easy to not pug.
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I never know what to make of these threads.
Is the game not âfunâ because class imbalance is horrible? Thatâs legit.
Or is the game just not âfunâ because M+ isnât as faceroll easy as it was in Dragonflight? Not legit.
How are you pugging to that sort of level and not naturally make any friends/acquaintances along the way? You almost have to go out of your way not to run into at least a few folks who enjoyed playing with you and vice versa.
Iâve played Assassin rogue since 2004. I swapped a few times here and there, but always came back - with the exception of Shadowlands, Assassin was painfully useless that entire expansion, and the beginning of DF.
Now, for the first time in YEARS, Assassin is S tier. I get KSM every season since SL and missed one or two for KSH, but I sit in queue forever⌠I know my class very well, but what can I do to show that besides raiderio addon? I bring silence, stun, burn prio targets, aoe blind, kick, can distract pats, stun, etc. but get passed up for Lock, DK, Sham, War, Boomkin, Mage⌠/shrug
Lust and Brez are requirements, so that rules out two spots for me assuming the healer or tank isnât a lust or brez⌠dispells are usually sought after or required if seasonal calls for it. I bring a ton of utility to a run, but nothing âusefulâ at face when Iâm being looking at in LFG, because keyholders or applicants [when I list] donât know class kits or can fathom people in LFG are good. Big ilvl doesnât mean sh!t since itâs crazy easy to get gear.
Maybe if Blizz scraps the timer for M+ things may change? Who knows⌠They probably need to change how mind numbingly easy it is to get gear and get max level first so players donât stop playing 6 weeks after Seasons start. This is the first time in 20 years I donât really have the itch to play when I sit down at the PC and itâs a bummerâŚ
Did you really needed to make a post about not subbing for a month or two and the. Redubbing for next season only to unsub again after a month or two?
LikeâŚokay see you in 60 days I guess lol.
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Welcome to being an adult and having limited blocks of free time that donât often coincide with those of other adults.
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Yeah, I have to agree. I have a decently sized guild/community but theyre generally not available as much or at the same as me. That and sometimes pugs are healthy for fresh perspective. Ive picked up many a trick over the years from pugs. -Point being I pug a lot too, and this season it is not the same. Im not a stranger to maybe like 30min queing for groups as a dps. This 1-3hr nonesense is gross⌠And this is for 10s, not even 12+. There needs to be better metrics for vetting groups or something. I should be able to play an alt and not re-prove myself time and time again. Ive been 3k multiple seasons and at least 2500 on 2-4 alts per season for the last 6 years. I know every route, every role, every pack, every pull and every mechanic.
I realize half this prob is on the community, the other half is on development. I dont have a good solution either⌠But something has to give. If the coming seasons bring more of the same, well, im not going to keep paying for a queue simulator.
I dont even want to push anymore, I just want to spam run 10s without wasting my entire night clicking.
The coming changes may help some. Who knows, but simply ârun your own keyâ isnt the solution. Crests could stil stand some changes. Absolutely no one wants to touch any key that isnt a 2, 8 or 10 so rebuilding a key is often an even longer process, and thats getting to be unacceptable.
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Rip lv 10 troll account
Post on your main if you want to be taken seriously.
You really have to apply yourself.
Lots of people expect good groups to fall into their laps for no reason.
Undeservedly so.
Pugging to title while theoretically possible, is like trying to pug CE raiding.
(Which is also theoretically possible.)
Probably better to compare title with HOF.