Would like to hear your opinions
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Of course! I don’t see why not.
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BWL / ZG / AQ 20 definatly puggable.
AQ 40 early bosses no probs. Twin emps/C’Thun i doubt it.
Early bosses in Naxx sure - again the later ones i highly doubt it - imagine 8 pug tanks not in discord communicating to tank swap and focus 4 bosses. Imagine 8 pug tanks not in t3 getting a taunt resist and trying to recover.
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I dunno classic raiding has been Tank and spank so far. I think it’s possible and will be easy raiding.
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MC/ONY always have been tank and spank. Tank swaps didnt happen until BWL (Vael because your tank dies after 45 secs, so tank no. 2 needs to be second on the threat - unless your pushing sub 1 min kills needing every single world buff/cunsume this will be the case).
Pugs still wipe in ubrs and fail to clear it - raid content to come take’s alot more organizing/communication.
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I remember pugging AQ, so I don’t see why not.
He has a point… some bosses in later raids are pretty damn rough. Twins and the last 13ish of Naxx for sure. I don’t see too much issue with cthun pug, not since it was nerfed.
edit : By he I mean you. You are right.
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yes
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why arent the pugs in discord?
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I look forward to doing the safety dance with 40 people…
Hahaha there is no way that fight is puggable.
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Wanna bet?
people pug retail raids that are magnitudes more challenging than anything in classic. Everything in classic will be pugged.
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So are we betting on pug clears week 1 of release? Or when the gear catches up to allow players to carry others?
I actually played back then and did the raids for what it’s worth [check my dark portal tabard + mounts idc]. As the person above said and is correct, MC / Ony were always jokes mechanically. They were only tougher due to talents being crap for most of vanilla and dungeon gear not having the buffed stats that most of 1.12 has.
They are easily puggable in Classic…ZG will be too, Jindo might be a exception though. Same with AQ20. BWL is pretty straight forward. The most complex boss there really is Razorgore and if a raid can beat him then most of the rest is not too hard, though the suppression room may cause a wipe and possibly the goblin packs after Broodlord Lashlayer.
AQ40 with actual “pug” pugs - you know - just randoms that nobody knows being invited, won’t get far there. If by “pug” that means taking a alt of some pro player in another guild then that’s a different story, i mention that because people like to confuse the two and say how awesome they are and that their pug steamrolled xyz raid…but leave out that they ran with alt pugs from top guilds. Aq40 past Fankriss and most of Naxx is not puggable for the most part, minus the “pro alt” pugs. The difficulty ramps up considerably after BWL.
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Idk guys I hear heroic raids are pugged in retail. Aren’t they harder?
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I am willing to bet over time even naxx will be puged full clear.
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If 2/3 of the raid is competent and has done retail raiding at all from the last three or four expansions, that fight shouldn’t cause too many problems. A boss like Operator Thogar from Blackrock Foundry, even in his LFR incarnation, would be decent training for that.
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Cthun definitely won’t be puggable, too many ppl need to do their job for the fight to be successful. I would say most fights in naxx will be puggable assuming everyone is fully buffed.
More challenging yes but how many ppl are willing to drop a couple hundred gold into consumes for 1 raid night? Cause the raids that don’t, won’t down any bosses in later raids.
I bet Twin Emps will be a total joke and everyone is gonna complain on the forums about how they one shot it and it wasnt like vanilla
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Naxx attunement requirements alone will preclude most casual players from even attempting a pug.