Oh I’m not afraid. In fact I think it’s great. All the money TBC only players are paying for their subs is still supporting the game as a whole.
I’m just pointing out that your entire argument is flawed.
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You can kick and cry all you want, but the proof is there that more people are raiding on tbc than retail, I can’t open your eyes for you.
Classic only “held up” because most of the people that came flooding in were the ones that hadn’t been playing for years and came in from private servers, which was part of the point of launching Classic in the first place.
A good number of those people have left now, so what you have is people from Retail “dabbling” in Classic because they are waiting for 9.1 and are bored.
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What are you going on about. I just said it was great. Apparently you don’t understand how arguments work.
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The Boring Crusade classic just came out, give it a few weeks and then come back and see when the servers are empty as everyone is bored of AOE spam.
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Considering both requires the same sub money to access neither can kill each other.
Btw didn’t you guys stopped spamming this like 3 months into classic , should we expect round 3 in Wotlk
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Why do you think people will return en masse in 9.1 when there is nothing fundamentally changing from 9.0? A lot of people quit 9.0 before there were complaints of a content drought.
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Because as you pointed out, a lot of players have already cleared the raid bosses in TBC…and soon they will be bored and looking for new content.
I doubt they are going to just sit on TBC waiting for new content.
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It has for me, but I’m just one guy. I hope other people enjoy it though.
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Yes it is objective fact that there are more kills on one TBC raid over the Shadowlands one.
The gameplay being better is subjective.
You’ll figure it out one day.
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I wouldn’t take the complaints you see on the forums and people saying " I quit because of X" as your evidence here.
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All these Classic/TBC Classic players seemingly keep wanting retail to die, but the way I see it, we are all WoW players, we all enjoy the same basic game, just different iterations. Besides do you think Blizz would continue with Classic re-releases if retail died. Something tells me they probably wouldn’t.
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A lot of people playing a game = game is good
Low number of people playing a game = game is bad
What must it be like to be so delusional?
Fun is subjective. I only like TBC gameplay for helping me fall asleep, it’s really boring for me. Meanwhile retail gameplay always has my friends and I hyped. Doesn’t sound very ‘objectively better’.
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Apparently shadowlands didn’t lose almost 50% of it’s playerbase by march?
smily accept the grammatical advice given earlier…otherwise I feel your spot on.
Now the argument could be made that people in retail dont care about the raid as much as people in TBC care. I would bet that 75% of TBC players who can raid have raided, while i bet 25% of retail has done the same.
We will never have facts on the actual numbers, talking about it seems silly.
We can talk about why raiding in TBC is more popular than raiding in retail, and if perhaps that is some insight as to the issues with retail…because if you do, ill agree with you…
I really think the ubersweaty endgame esport marathon that retail is, has been incredibly destructive to the community and players in general.
I hate dealing with retail raids and mechanics. It just not fun. I like a more laid back approach. I dont want mechanics i can brag to others about being able to do, i want to have a fun chill time with friends playing…not proving to the world im a gamergod…cuz im not…
However keep in mind classic didnt kill retail, and TBC isnt going to either. Grated we will never know how dead retail is.
To be fair, I think that’s pretty common with new expansions. 9.1 will likely see a similar increase and then decrease.
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100% it wouldn’t happen. They’d kill WoW entirely for something else if Retail subs went down the tubes.
Since they are still the biggest game in town (despite what the FF14 people seem to think), they aren’t pulling the plug any time soon.
That said, however, they also won’t release all the old expansions as “Classic”. As I’ve been saying, they will likely stop at Wrath, because Cata is where the game changed so fundamentally.
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You must be new.
This has happened in every expansion launch since cata. The longer the next patch takes, the bigger the drop. And then some people come back each patch and leave in a few weeks.
People are fickle and lose interest easily.
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Source please.
Good luck finding that number from a reputable source.
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