Will chronicles 4 whitewash...I mean "soften" Sylvanas

That isn’t redemption. If she was redeemed, every single character would welcome her back into the world with open arms.

It isn’t happening because what she did is UNFORGIVABLE! That’s what denies her redemption.

No, that’s forgiveness. Forgiveness and redemption are also not the same.

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That was a slip, I mean shadowlands and here it is:

“Throughout Eternity’s End we will see much more of that [Shattered Legacies] story, and we will work towards a resolution of the Sylvanas arc – that’s been something that’s been building for a very long time,” Danuser told Dexerto.

Forgiveness equals redemption

No it doesn’t. Someone can redeem themselves without being forgiven for their acts. Redemption usually comes from a higher power though.

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You have a very emotionally immature view of redemption.

You have to be forgiven to be redeemed.

Not true, redemption is personal it cones from self reflection, self reflection and the desire for self improvement.

Well, that also plays a major roll in it too. But forgiveness isn’t usually part of the package deal. It’s possible, but not always.

Either way, our girl Sylvanas deserves a new lease on life

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Volume 4 is going to be a shi*show for one reason and one reason alone:

The Purge of Dalaran.

Someone is going to be ticked off one way or another. If it’s written to be correct per lore, people who did it but never heard about the cut content, the bugs, the Devs explaining the changes, etc… are going to feel like it’s Alliance whitewashing. If its written as its presented in the game, ignoring all the issues like bugs or Aethas’ treason, then it’s going to be Horde whitewashing.

Then there’s going to be the group that’s never happy no matter what, just dumping gasoline on the fire.

To think, we’re only a year or two out from Midnight to top it all off. Get the popcorn ready.

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Redemption is about your own internal transformation and/or changed actions.

Forgiveness is about other people’s internal transformations in their attitude toward you.

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There’s a difference between personal redemption and the concept of the divine redemption of the soul.

I saw Sylvanas’s redemption as being very Jungian. Aka more about psychology than about forgiveness from a divine power. I don’t forsee Sylvanas asking forgiveness from Elune (considering Elune basically let the burning of Teldrassil happen herself)

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Honestly, I don’t even know if there’s a deity in the Warcraft-verse that is capable of bestowing divine redemption. I don’t think the “powers that be” work that way. So personal redemption (transformation) is all we’ve got.

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Elune could, in theory anyway, forgive Sylvanas for her last minute rash decision to burn the tree if the devs wanted to go that route. But that’s highly unlikely. And I don’t think it would go over well with some people anyway

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If you look at most WoW villians, Gul’dan, Sargeras, Arthas, Garrosh. Not a single one of them was interested in personal redemption and that’s why they were never redeemed.

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Sure, Elune could forgive Sylvanas, but I don’t think that would redeem her, in the sense of bringing about an internal transformation. We don’t even have any sign that it would prevent her (Sylvanas) from going to Revendreth, if she didn’t personally repent.

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I hope they walk back some of the weird statements they made to try and make it seem like she was always plotting some sort of world domination weirdness. Like the statement that she knew about the Wrathgate before it happened. The actual betrayal resulting in both Horde and Alliance forces being wiped out on the cusp of being able to fight Arthas was way more nuanced.

It was like they were writing two Sylvanases for years before settling on the one with less depth. And then they leaned into the meme of there being two Sylvanases.

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then we’ll have thaldressil

Can you imagine?

Still, even if Elune did forgive Sylvanas there would be night elf stans who refuse to acknowledge it.

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Probably two different devs or dev factions competing to get their version of her into the game and books. That’s my theory, at least.

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