Sorry long read but heres a TL:DR “You have to bank on random internet strangers to have morals and ideals that are equal to 39 others in a society where parents cant govern their own children.”
First id like to state a lil ethos so you can understand i see both scenarios… ive been playing this game since i was a child and to poor to afford a sub/playing on anothers acct and now i can afford a sub anyways.
TL:DR just gquit one of the “top guilds” because “fair LC”. can skip next paragraph
If you just have a different view of opinions as the single person dictating loot or LC with a strat that alone will have even if u have a semi fair loot council you will always have someone against you. and if they are the odd number voter thats gg you lose everytime. and thats if your lucky and its a loot council and not 1 person dictating. People cant accept critisicm without taking offense and that alone in a game that requires criticism creates biased animosity.
Anyways i hope people can consider the downfalls to both. If i just GDKP’d for example id be near full bis with my legendary staff still and have actually enjoyed myself instead of making myself misreble to hope for a fair loot distribution system. but i realized i was being used. Also i wouldnt have quit cata(yes i regret playing) just bc of so… THe community makes this game you can argue with me on that all day. but even retail players say they dont talk. BUt look at barrens chat. Populations between expansions…
Anyways I hope we can come to the conclusion of maybe killing pay to play but not GDKPS? I cant foresee myself joining a guild again just to work my butt off spend hours of my time for again a dictator type loot system. Why are we voting out choices? Why can’t we all be individuals and do what we please? NO one forces anyone to do either, and yes you can leave when its bad like i did.
Again DOnt want ban this ban that. Would just like freedom and choices cause you know merica? cause lets be real thats going to be the biggest problem especially with loot rarity in Vanilla. Who wants to join a guild that has 20 members from previous expansions just to be the last 20 members to get loot? YOu literally would get dang near no items in these short phases. Unless you already have a team of players in a guild together and your part of that crew. ITS GG for you/equality.
So how do you raid? again i wanted constructive critiscm. not your nonsense that results in no raiding or no LC. the game is about raiding you urrrghhh lol. IF GDKP IS BAANNED AND YOU CANT LOOT COUNCIL your forced to pug and roll rng. AGAIn way rather quit than do that.
and yes i stated that in my post and is why im pleading for gdkp?!?!? did you read it?!?!
Im trying to play a game i enjoy your just trying to argue good bye. blocked.
SR>MS>OS ofc. that’s the only other way. you either trust the loot council or you deal with rolling OR you make your own guild and deal with the logistics of managing a roster of 39 other people.
Paradigm legend, thx for your vods on our cata prog.
It is what it is indeed. unfortunately populations died so much that LC’s have become less fair catering to those who play less and hold back your raid. I want to be mad but we wouldnt raid without it and is why this is my plea.
I think it is partly population but also partly just the nature of how the game is designed.
People raid for reward (and for 99% of players that is loot).
When they have all that reward, raiding becomes a huge chore, and thus as soon as the ‘central core’ of a raid group is fully geared - they generally stop running that raid.
GDKPs gave those geared toons a reason to continue raiding, take it away and the total amount of geared raiders is dramatically reduced.
with the gdkp ban there really should be an increase in overall loot dropped each raid imo. if not that then our only choice is to gollum mode ranking for real gear come p2.
FOr the sweatier base i agree but i truly believe we need both player bases apart of the community for the game to prosper but hey just speculation here.
Only for progression. After the core is geared even a good LC has problems.
There is no longer incentives for the leaders to continue running the content unless they come with alts, and then their alts are getting geared faster than other ppls mains.
FACTS officers alts will get a rare bis item before a good players main xD, i do agree with you completely tho on loot i think there needs to be a balance between vanilla and like tbc? idk i thought wotlk system was good but phases were long and i bounced in and out of the content than
best chance you join a newly formed guild with a good RL and make sure you’re readily prepared and performing well each raid. If the LC gives someone who is objectively performing worse gear that is your tick to leave.
THe main issue with gdkps imo and the hate towards it is what i grew up with. I was poor i didnt wanna suck because i couldnt buy things lol. When i joined a HC guild and brought me to theirs and i learned how it worked. I truly believe theres no better system. Worst comes to wrost you dont get gear but you get gold to buy it next drop NO unfairness you spend how you spend just like IRL.
DO some people have an advantage swiping? sure. But than u get to pocket the gold from the share for the next weeks when the gear is cheaper…
Feels like this is either microsofts attempt to make more “guilds/communites” or maybe monetize gold for themselves.
NO unfairness you spend how you spend just like IRL.