Why was Classic more successful than TBCC

You’re joking! People would have chosen to play the less popular less good content rather than spending 100 hours leveling a new character? Say it aint so.

People were given a choice between vanilla and tbc and they overwhelmingly chose tbc. You’re allowed to have an opinion that varies from the mainstream one but don’t pretend like it’s mainstream and everyone just had their arm twisted :laughing:

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It doesn’t provide me with any ingame rewards (aside from fun) so its a waste of time… perfect gamer mentality.

I love the irony of this statement. This whole game is essentially a waste of time and it provides nothing but entertainment and i guess the same could be said for Wpvp, but then you have jokers like this guy here not seeing the forest because of all them trees

I think it is also the community is absolutely terrible, the 58 boost allowed the retail Shadowlands crowd to all make Flavour of the Month meta classes, now we have tank shortages all around the board. Of course they all went Horde and on a PVP Server too, now faction balance is dead and they will get their HVH Merc Mode added of course.

Most of the regulars on these forums are actually the worst kind of players in the community. They have no friends to play with or talk to so they come here to troll every post like a certain someone.

Because the original TBC wasn’t such a rigged mess

If it was superior it would hold more people and longer. People like to go back and see the sub numbers but the only reason TBC had a spike as well as WotLK was because Vanilla was just that good. It just took a while for every casual andy on the globe to catch on. TBC isn’t bad but it isn’t vanilla or anywhere near it. There is a reason vanilla pservers were so popular compared to the others. And again this doesn’t mean TBC is bad or WotlK is bad, they good games, just nowhere near the original.

Trying to draw direct comparisons between the two is quite silly; vanilla is what it is because it was the beginning of the story. Its scope is larger, its breadth is larger. That doesn’t make it better, in any way.

Any argument being made that one is better than the other is subjective. There are plenty of arguments that can be leveled in both directions to support both opinions. The reality of the situation is that Classic vanilla was popular at launch, and it is utterly dead at the launch of TBC.

The evidence of PSevers is utter nonsense. The most popular PSevers had maybe 20,000 peak players. They are popular only in relative terms; in absolute terms they are a drop in the bucket compared to people playing vanilla classic at its release, or now playing tbc. What this means is while there is an avid group of players that is relatively large that enjoys vanilla compared to other expansions, they are nowhere near enough to provide a stable base for literally anyone else to want to stay in vanilla now that the option is there legitimately to move on.

Vanilla devouts, while a large subset of players relative to any other subset of players, is still miniscule in the context of the entire player base.

Then explain the lack of interest that TBCC seems to have to deal with… that early on in the game.

Again im not trashing the game, it just isn’t vanilla.

Yea its subjective, and yet i am not surprised in the least the game is bleeding players left and right.

BC is just a little more of the same as vanilla/classic was. Wrath is what tries to mix the best of both worlds on the classic-retail spectrum.

So your answer on getting ppl back is wrath? Man where have i heard that one before?

People already know which version they prefer. My point was the nature of wrath appeased almost every type of WoW player ever. I played thru the entirety of classic; not my cup of tea but I accepted it for what it was; same as now with BC.

When classic was the game going, ppl said the same thing about TBC:… “classic is the TBC waiting room”. Now they say its WotlK.

I can assure you, once WotlK hits, its gonna be just as much QQ here as now about the stuff Wrath did wrong. Or their changes to wrath.

Let me tell you what most of the WoW players want. They want the QoL features from the retail end of the spectrum in a pre-cataclysm classic world setting. Wrath is the closest thing to that.

I’m confident wrath wont have the problem classic went through at the end of its cycle.

Speak for yourself i guess. If retail was what they wanted it would flourish. They don’t.

People think they want the QoL changes, but once they there those ppl crying for it leaving and it just takes away from the game.

Its just sad that Lizzard has no vision anymore and is unsure what to do with the game obviously.

Classic is definitely a worse version than TBC, but it was also more novel. It’s actually kind of unfortunate that Classic came first, since it had so much hype but it’s so raw, especially compared to modern games, that a lot of people didn’t stay long. But it makes sense that the 1st version would be more successful. TBC being basically the same game isn’t able to tap into that fresh nostalgia as directly as Classic was

Tbc is also in a weird stage right now. There are only 3 “real” raid bosses and they’re all incredibly easy. There is no progression/challenging content, and the raid content that is available can be completely cleared in a couple hours. So PVE players just don’t have a lot to do right now, but that will obviously change with the next couple phases. Even for the ZA phase you’ll still have a lot of people still working through BT/Hyjal so even though that’s the other “slow” phase, this one is by far the “worst”

What lack of interest?

You confuse forum posts with reality. It is extremely likely that the majority of people playing TBCC are happily still leveling their way to 70.

Numbers dwindling atleast on my server

Because WPVP isn’t fun for most people… it is just a gank fest of leveled people picking on weaker opponents… it is about harassing people. Once in a blue moon, some real Wpvp might happen…but most of it is just embarrassing …

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