So changes were accepted. Which means that changes to classic werent detrimental to the experience
hmm.
You still have yet to explain why it’s actually an issue, not everyone cares about raiding or arena, nor should they.
That is not the context you first said it pal.
Just so you know, I’m pro some changes. But the questions isn’t about changes. It’s about WHAT changes. Do the changes take the game in a direction that differs from the original vision and/or lean towards the vision of the retail game. If so, then I’d argue that it’s a bad decision for the reasons I have referred to prior.
It was pal.
I have though, you chose to ignore my explanation and then tried to discredit me when I reasonably refused to repeat myself.
No to you its #MYCHANGES
You accept some changes but the ones you dont accept you write bibles to combat
You wanted changes? Welcome to them
No, it’s about #changesthatdontmakeclassicmoresimilartoretail
And btw, you weaponizing #somechanges like this is exactly why people like me before classic launch WERE no changes because we feared that if we changed even reasonable stuff that it would then be used to rationalise making super drastic changes.
And people who are capable of more nuanced thought than retail bad vanilla perfect are able to make actual arguments for against something.
I’m not making the argument that retail is bad. I’m making the argument that making classic like retail is bad. Now THAT’S nuance.
Got it
Shouldve stayed that way. You seem hypocritical in your current stance. Ok with changes but only when they align with you. Then condem other changes saying “they arent in the games direction!”
All or none and you chose all
It wasn’t.
I’ll copy your full comment because I guess what you said. “I have heard this repeated so many times that it is no longer original. Maybe you should try your own stuff”
And I have heard anti-boosters repeat the same thing over and over again, maybe you should try your own stuff.
Trying to explain stuff to someone with a room temp IQ is difficult. But lets get off this topic.
At the end of the day, it upsets you that people can get a character to 58. You for whatever reason take a massive amount of pride in the fact that you leveled to 60 so people getting a pass just makes you mad. You and ever other anti-booster here just comes up with the same weak arguments against it as a stretch to cover up they real reason.
At the end of the day, none of your points matter, as I pointed out before but you seem to have just looked by. And more people are going to play because of the boost then quit because of the boost.
Yes and, it’s in retail, is not an argument for or against something it’s merely a statement.
So you’d rather pigeon hold classic players into #nochanges rather than being reasonable and acknowledging that there are small changes that would make the game more similar to the experience people had back in the day but that doesn’t mean that drastic changes that are more akin to retail then any version of original classic, tbc etc… are good for the game.
But this thread is a copy of my OG thread on the EU forums that was posted a month before madseason’s video. Therefore, I’m not repeating anyone else’s ideas. They were mine and mine alone. This was to counter the argument you made that the reply you have quoted of me was responding to. You implied that I copied my ideas from other threads + madseason’s video which is simply untrue.
It is when you consider that what differentiates classic from retail is what makes it a product that is worth while existing.
Im very pro changes. And im for this change as well. If someone ever shows me concrete evidence as to why its bad I’ll listen. Havent heard any yet though.
That’s because you don’t want to see it or hear it. You may claim to but your words indicate otherwise.
Druids are in retail I guess they should be removed from classic.
You havent said it either, This opinion piece isnt it
Just like madseasons video. All those points where brought up day 1 we heard about boost. Madseasons and you are both just repeating the same argument. It doesn’t matter that you posted it before him. It just means you repeated them first.
Well if retail druids were in classic. Sure. But classic druids not so much. Although, this argument doesn’t hold up because druids existed in original classic but boosts did not. Boost were added in MoP.
So who was the original anti-booster then? Because I’m sure if he were here, you’d assume that he was repeating someone else. Basically, anti-boosters are repeating even if they aren’t because it’s convenient for you. And this kind of logic is coming from a guy who is so arrogant that he thinks he countered all my arguments.
Also notice how you’re shifting the goal post from what you originally said. First it was I’m copying madseason, now it’s I’m copying someone who said it before me who you don’t know who it was.
No no your argument is that if it’s in retail it’s automatically bad.
But you can’t actually explain why.
No, my argument is that changes made to retail that make it different from the game it used to be in the original game should not be in classic wow. That’s an important distinction.