Most HE fans are thrilled with this, it’s efficient, and we get to portray that HE fantasy mostly as is in game. The point of argument here remains the disingenuous notion that HE customizations have taken anything material in terms of development resources, and how that is being used by several people to vilify HE fans.
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You say that as if you are not close minded about the fact that a game feature that other people desired has been removed and your dismissal of that fact as false shows that you are not willing to argue in good faith, and instead resort to these cheap attempts to smear people with a different opinion on game features they like as being either morally or logically wrong.
You just keep going on about how since people didn’t like that high elves were added in the form of blood elves well over a decade ago that they deserve to be rewarded now before others, where does it end?
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How can you say this without knowing if it actually is just a copy/paste from Blood Elves or actually made new for Void Elves? Oh right, you don’t yet, no one does so really neither side knows who’s right or wrong so don’t try to play that with me.
oh please. you know damn well where they come from and her look should reflect the people she leads now. shes not running around in the forests of quel’thalas anymore, she basically lives in space and shoots out void magic
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But they don’t want to take anything from blood elves, noooooo
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No, we don’t 
We want to look like the only thalasisan elf in the game with that aesthetic; the one in our faction
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Because we have literally being shown the colors; they are literally BE ones.
It would take me 1 minute to cut and paste an already made BE hair color into the VE tendril with the base. Alternative, it will be part of the de-tendrilization.
Neither approach is resource intensive. Hair colors on themselves are one of the easiest customization options they could add across the board, and it’s even so when you are not even making a new hair colors, and merely copying an already existing one.
I literally edit hair color on screenshots for fun. It’s easy and quick.
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Can you and the other Anti-High Elf people stop acting like copy/paste skins/hair colors of Blood Elves was some massive undertaking that took away precious development that could’ve went to the Horde?
Y’all got literally everything in BFA.
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I think you are grasping at straws here while complaining about what others are saying to you and trying to villainize them so I’m just going to leave it at that because I really don’t want to waste anymore of my time with you.
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More Options > Exclusivity. The first will always be more desirable as a design philosophy than the later for me; I believe the first should over-rule the second.
You are free to your opinion, but I have been clear that I think it’s simply the wrong opinion, and I won’t say “let’s agree to disagree” when it’s about opposing design philosophies.
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What straws? i’m simple telling you that these options added to VE are not resource intensive by any means, far bellow any other AR’s, and thus the arguments that somehow these HE options are taking resources are baseless.
Do not be afraid of facts, and do check your bias.
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My bias, I was supporting Void Elves still getting black, white and brown hair and they got it so as if, I just don’t agree with the BS you are pushing while trying to villainize other people give it a rest Turo.
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Well, I mean, I don’t, and I don’t know what I could do about the imaginary anti-high elf people who live in your head and are as far as I can tell the only people saying that this took major effort. (And I don’t think one person being salty about time spent working on void elf panties when it was the belf’s turn is labeling it a great effort, just that it’s stuff that was done when something else was supposed to have been done)
What game are you playing, because damn I’d like to play that Horde experience as opposed to the BFA that happened.
The last two words are the important ones here. For you.
For me the more important thing is having unique races with strong stories, and I’ll alwas take that over something with lots of options but little actual difference.
Hey, I think your opinion is wrong too. But that’s just my opinion, and my preference. While I don’t understand what’s so great about having duplicated appearances I get that you want it. You just think value different things and that’s fine, I just disagree and don’t see that either one is objectively better, they just scratch different itches and some people just get way too worked up about people liking what they don’t like.
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As long as we are clear that none of the HE options that VE got are resource intensive. The only thing I am making clear here is that to pretend that somehow these customizations have cost anyone anything is baseless.
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Far be it from me to detract from the Belf/Helf slapfights that are… apparently still going on, but there are a few other things that should be addressed too.
1. An overview and sweep of options that are already in game to fix any remaining bugs and to try and bring some parity between the various races. One of the female dwarf faces, for example, has had their default expression be mid-expression since WoD. Ergo the ‘rest’ position is in fact the face starting to emote.
The new human hairstyles are locked to certain new hair colours, and in turn those colours cannot be used for any of the old hairs. This is clearly an oversight or bug, because one of the new colours, the dark brown, can be used seamlessly with all hairs. In addition, scars are still locked to faces, while other races do not have this same restriction. Also, some tweaks to the ‘Asian’ face options to make them more in line with what was first previewed would be welcome.
Draenei cannot change their eye colour, and are hard-locked to blue. Before the WoD update the eyes changed with skin tone, including white and purple. This should be an easy fix.
Continuing with Draenei, they have the ability to change the colour of all their jewelry, including that which is attached to a given hairstyle. Blood Elves can’t do this for all their hairstyles, making for clashes with various mogs in terms of colour. Bringing their options in line with Draenei, and vice versa for eye colour, would open a lot of options with minimal resources.
And of course, Trolls could use that Forest Troll skin as well, not sure why that wasn’t added but it would be appropriate given the High Elf vibes on Alliance forthcoming.
2. Bringing options from allied races to their counterparts, and vice versa. This is more of a limited thing, but my primary focus for this is Gnomes. Gnomes got very little in terms of new stuff, to the point where they don’t even have a second tab in character creation (the only race that doesn’t, besides allied races). Taking from Mechagnomes, and giving them the option for mechanical limbs, even just some mechanical arm designs, would add one such unique feature that’s pretty much tied to all Gnomes in lore anyway.
3. New features in general, not taken from allied races. While some races did get quite a bit, and are sitting pretty, my own PFP race among them, some, such as Blood Elves, do indeed need more. Runic tattoos, new hairstyles, even warpaint in keeping with what we see Alleria wear (a cultural aspect that wouldn’t just vanish from the Blood Elves) would offer a lot. Even the races that did get a lot, when those options are added up… well, it doesn’t actually amount to a massive overhaul. Many of the ‘new’ hairs were in the files already since Wrath, for instance.
The previews we’ve seen for allied races thus far are very promising, as are the engaging responses from Blues, so I hope that this thread’s being watched for other suggestions as opposed to just eating popcorn while the elves fight.
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As I already said, I think I’m done talking to you because the only bias one here is you and it’s beyond annoying and I would rather not waste anymore of my time because like Tarrok already said it doesn’t matter how much time or how many resources it took because it’s exactly what people asked for and people like you just make yourselves sound ungrateful and that’s just sad.
Indeed, as such, it is clear there is no middle ground between our positions. Then what’s the point of arguing against each other when the differences is a core design philosophy?
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I mean if the argument in any way is that a race shouldn’t get a given feature, or new features, then it’s honestly pretty dumb. The response should be “Hey, they get this, give us more too!” as opposed to “I don’t want them to get anything because I haven’t gotten anything yet!”
Just hand them an excuse to not do more stuff, why don’t you? It’s not like they haven’t used any excuse in the past to skimp on things.
They’re listening now, so it seems, and watching this thread. Use it to tell them what you want for your favourite races, not to argue about what other races should or should not get. You’re all spamming at this point and drowning out actually useful comments.
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This discussion would have more value if you actually addressed the points said instead of just deflecting what is being said.
I don’t know what part of most of us being thrilled with these options makes us sound ungrateful. But that doesn’t fit your narrative of making HE fans morally lacking for wanting High Elven fantasy of being playable.
Lots of projection and deflection, few arguments beyond imagined slights and postures and taking whatever fringe opinion as “HE fans are never happy”
I am happy, most of us are. You have to let go of this grudge.
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