Why the lack of Customization?

I think they need to take a gander at the customization options/UI of Guild Wars 2. They have a pretty good system in place for all this.

Our current system, while recently updated, is just bad. It’s convoluted and even with it being released in 2020 it feels dated.

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Ultimately the pattern is pretty clear.

Alliance asks for something that is in our lore. Horde complains we shouldn’t have it, despite being in our lore.

Horde then asks for stuff that’s not even in their lore just to have a “gotcha” theme over the alliance.

Horde proceeds to call everyone who disagrees Helvers because that’s all they know how to process alliance requests.

Yeah , it’s such a good look. They could be a lot more creative with hair really. Though I do think they made a lot of great hairstyles since legion. Particularly for Draenei, LFD, Velves and Humans.

Ohh all the crying lmao, it was one week and the crying was bigger than the complains about mages in cataclysm. So ridiculous.

I mean sure, but like someone here said glowing marks and they all jumped to think people were asking for the literal nightborne marks. Like, they have so little imagination. Chill.

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I think it has overlap when the options that are Highborne in question better fit the theme that NB deliver. And with Horde races being freely copied to the Alliance with the most obvious being BEs with nothing in return, NB thankfully have new unique options, that theme should be guarded, we didn’t see NB get NEs nature main theme in any form the way they stripped BEs to allow VE players RP tools with two select visual themes.

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I just don’t even care, the entire pissing contest is so freaking childish.

The Draenei and LFD have won the hair war. They absolutely nailed the hair options they added for us. I’m going to sport the pixie cut so fast when 9.1.5 is released.

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The issue is that the classy elves are the Nightborne not the Night Elves, Night Elves follow Priest and Druid stuff which is why even in game they get made fun of by jokes and NPC’s for being tree elves, sleeping in dens, etc.

For real, when do we actually get to start taking stuff from Night Elves for Nightborne, I mean it was supposed to be a trade of elves so where is my Night Elf customization stuff for my Nightborne?

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I wish I had more likes to give you.

I like that we got many braids, they look really good. Even the base options for LFD are amazing.
Draenei always got some pretty iconic hairstyles though. Wonder if the horns help with designing them.

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Stop wasting them on trying to bash Blood Elf players when you literally want/wanted to be a copy/paste of them.

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Says you. I didn´t see you complaining when Helfers got their Belf clone delivered a month ago.

However, I will only judge YOU based on the behaviour, NOT the rest of the Draenei nor Alliance posters. Cause that´s how one must judge people: by their own actions, NOT the actions of the ones we remember precisely because they acted like Jerks.

And if you honest to god believe this, then how can you say something as rude and inconsiderate as -and I quote-:

Cause the mockery? The mockery will annoy not only the person you feel like antagonizing, but ALL the associated fans of the race. And that´s not decent behaviour, period.

If someone annoys you terribly with their attitude for x ot y reasons, the ignore button is available to be used, period. I know I put on ignore the trolls that aggravated me too much (so yes, this means I don´t believe Averyx nor you are trolls, you guys have kept a concisse and coherent behaviour sans the particular WTF moment of Averyx regarding the Dark Rangers).

I´m NOT “disccounting your grievances” when I literally called AVERYX on her post.

Or is your name Averyx too? No? Good. Then me thinks the post didn´t apply to you, period.

In that we agree… I mean, I never said NO as long as the DESIGNS were different. Not even in my worst anti phase ffs.

I just despise low effort. And copy / pasting stuff IS low effort. Blizz will NEVER improve in quality if we -the customers- literally excuse them before they even try ffs.

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I was really surprised with the amount of braids they gave Draenei. Like I didn’t even think about giving us braids here and there, but they did it and man did they nail it.

You can see that they are playing around the horns more and more which is great.

I’m pretty sure me saying, “This is why ARs are garbage.” Falls under me complaining about it. Like how red in the face do I need to be to get your approval of being dissatisfied with how they treated parent races?

Because my actions are my own. Me mocking folks trying to silence others from having their own frustrations or submitting their own feedback is myself posting. Not the entire blue faction. It’s also why I stated that some of you do deserve to be mocked which is exactly what I do. I’m not over here mocking Baelsong or other constructive posters. I’m mocking the weirdos that want to turn everything into a competition for Blizzards time.

*had the wrong poster

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Nobody said you were, you involved yourself in a comment I made to a user about their perception that Horde and Nightborne players were out to arbitrarily invalidate their requests for “Highborne” options, when the basis for these requests was shaky at best, and at times infringing on the Nightborne’s aesthetic.

For instance, this user was lobbying for more slender Night Elves with glowing face tattoos…gee, what does that sound like? :roll_eyes:

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My favorite of the new options is Vogue.

What’s funny is that’s exactly how I had designed a LFD OC before it existed.

Lol, I actually yelled at them before because I lumped them in with the rest of them so even with as bad or as mean as you often claim to be, you clearly aren’t as mean as I am sometimes.

It’s always nice when things get added that match your OC :relaxed:

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I repeat, phrase that I never saw one month give or take when the Helfers were only too happy mocking us.

At the end, I don´t know why you felt the need to act like the Knight in shining armor of Averyx… my complain was regarding her and her alone (or is ti he? no idea). Feel free to be the cause of your own drama.

And no, excuse me but I certainly aren´t “demanding” any fealty to my cause; however in the case I see double standards you can bet I will point to them, period.

Be aware that if you mock, you make perfectly good to be mocked yourself. You are the one putting the bar to be crossed in the comunication with the other posters in such case.

So don´t complain when they do, period.

I´m just too old for this BS. I can´t take seriously claims of “faction Bias” from people that stayed silent when the “faction Bias” ran on their favor, no more and no less (No Autai, not YOU. The other posters that love to come here to even say Belves shouldn´t even get any more stuff).

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I mean I’m not defending Averyx in any way. They’re an adult that can take care of themselves and fight their own battles.

Same.

Duh, but if you think someone trying to generalize someone into teams/groups based on a faction choice is healthy then idk what to tell you tbh.

And I repeat, I can’t be in every thread. And again, I HE/BE debated myself out when the Void Elves were implemented.

Sorry that you don’t’ recall my frustrations over the lack of Void Elf options that matched their theme because I reflected my frustrations rather quickly.

Did you defend me when I was being mocked for wanting Void themes added to the race after the HE ones were added? Should I hold that against you for not backing me up with being frustrated that I didn’t get what I wanted with the Void Elf race? Holding you accountable to defend my griefs would be insane and I would never hold that on someone so I’m not sure why you think I should be discredited for not being in every HE/BE thread.

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I mean there isn’t any issue with sharing at least some of it with Nightborne.

The Nightborne during their story had access to the Moonguard and were even helped by a druid. I don’t honestly have any issue letting them have at least some of our options to give them some nature options if they want it.

One could definitely argue that they could make use of it even if they don’t have the exact same model stance and frame wise.

I cannot imagine that all the Moon Guard Just abandoned the Nightborne after that story… even if some did. And where did they go after? Back to their enclave or did some join the Night Elves?

Honestly that could go either way… but I don’t see why Nightborne shouldn’t get some options along those lines.

Night Elves have a priest/warrior theme, nature druid theme, and as of cata an arcane theme. In fact night elf mages come up rather a lot after that point. They’re just all in the background and Blizzard has done a horrid job of talking about their actual stories. They’re still there though.

Asking for a few minor options still in line with the Night Elf design to represent the Shen’dralar doesn’t even use the Nightborne setup…

I’m not asking for taking anything from Nightborne. In fact I’m generally resolutely against taking it from Nightborne. I want what we have with some arcane looking bents.

Yeah I cannot speak for others seeking Shen’dralar options but I’ve more or less always wanted them to be different than what the Nightborne got.

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Most don’t want the Highborne options to be like Nightborne because we recognize Nightborne evolved with their own theme in Suramar.

Being against highborne because Nelves shouldn’t be “elegant” is just petty TBH.

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Are we really going to pretend like it’s not selfish of you and other Alliance players to want thing after thing after thing on the blue team just because you don’t want to play the red team? I mean really get your own stuff instead of always wanting ours.

Highborne have been our stuff since cataclysm lmao.

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