Why the lack of Customization?

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

@Ariël-drakkari

they let the anti-mage race play a mage

What race are you implying?

[Saradots-sargeras]

@Leinadh-stormrage

Other than that, I’d love tendril colors, tattoos, EE skins or customizable EE, among others.

Yeah, EE Skins or EE Customisations, more hair styles, tendril colours, feather options, tattoos, they are what I have hope for in the future for Void Elves.

[Averyx-quelthalas (Averyx)]

@Saradots-sargeras

Yeah, EE Skins or EE Customisations, more hair styles, tendril colours, feather options, tattoos, they are what I have hope for in the future for Void Elves.

Raven feathers would be perfectly gothy for void elves.

[Saradots-sargeras]

Hey, I am not going to be the Emo Elf on the Alliance. I am going to be the [insert pun] elf on the Alliance

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There is a lot that I want to see for the Void Elves, not just High Elven customisations, but also Void Customisations as well.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Greatbrae-dalaran

It is, the only sane undead paladin had no control of his body and hated his own existence.

Scarlets aren’t insane because of their use of the Light after being reanimated. They’re insane because they were manipulated by a dreadlord then turned into the thing they hate the most. And insane isn’t even confirmed.

No reason in lore that undead couldn’t become paladins. The very nature of being a paladin, having significant faith in your cause, makes them entirely plausible.

Taking pain in return for using the Light is already a thing they do.

And the Light is not the opposite of death, life is.

Opposite of light is void.

[Saradots-sargeras]

I agree, Undead Paladins can exist, but them being a Paladin, the Light would only hurt them. It wouldn’t exactly, kill them or draw them to insanity.

[Averyx-quelthalas (Averyx)]

@Saradots-sargeras

There is a lot that I want to see for the Void Elves, not just High Elven customisations, but also Void Customisations as well.

I think it’s interesting how the helf customization can be translated into velf versions.

The alleria-like tattoos, voidy tattos. The usual white or colorful feathers into raven or purple-voidy feathers, and so.

[Saradots-sargeras]

Well, this is Blizzard after all, they’ll find a way.

[Nicodemùs-stormrage]

I think Ariel was referring to Night Elves. They have historically been against magery since the sundering. Then Night Elves got access to the mage class. While we know who is teaching the Night Elf mages, I’m not sure we ever got a really compelling explanation as to why they were allowed to rejoin Night Elf society.

Blizzard can make up any BS explanation they want for allowing this or that race/class combo, or just throw explanations out the window and let every race be every class. It’s all in their hands.

[Leinadh-stormrage]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

And the Light is not the opposite of death, life is.

And even so, we already have Kul Tiran Druids mixing Life/Death just fine.

It seems to me that only Void/Light mix is impossible… for now, we know how Blizzard likes retcons x)

[Naughtymoon-proudmoore (Naughtymoon)]

@Nicodemùs-stormrage

Blizzard can make up any BS explanation they want for allowing this or that race/class combo, or just throw explanations out the window and let every race be every class. It’s all in their hands.

I’m all for that, I already want my Tauren/Highmountain Tauren Warlock and Draenei/Lightforged Draenei Warlock.

[Lannister-tichondrius]

So long as Blood Elves get a second visual theme to allow BE players the same idea of RP tools / second set of options that they allowed Void Elf players to have at the expense of Blood Elf visual uniqueness I will be content, I am biased to wanting undead options with Velonara as the link (also the assumed easiest route imo), but others have suggested playing up the light theme or Fel.

Hopefully despite such focus being on “allied races” Blizzard can recall they allowed the bulk of Blood Elf visual uniqueness to be lost at a time they claimed was focusing on core races.

I hope to see something on that front.

[Averyx-quelthalas (Averyx)]

@Leinadh-stormrage

And even so, we already have Kul Tiran Druids mixing Life/Death just fine.

It seems to me that only Void/Light mix is impossible… for now, we know how Blizzard likes retcons x)

I don’t think they actually mix Life and death magic. they just embrace the natural cycle of being born , dying and so. Otherwise there’s no demonstration of them actually using any sort of death,

Their forms just look spooky, but it’s all bark, no bone.

[Saradots-sargeras]

@Naughtymoon-proudmoore

Tauren/Highmountain Tauren Warlock

@Naughtymoon-proudmoore

Draenei/Lightforged Draenei Warlock.

WARLOCKS

You had me a Warlock

[Avarie-farstriders]

I don’t think a light focus quite suits the blood elves. I am not big on fel for them either, honestly. I don’t object to either necessarily, I just think it’s too niche.

I would like more themes for them, and dark rangers for those of you who want them. I’d like for belf druids too, and some combination of nature and magic customizations. I love the idea of glowing feathers that some people have mentioned.

[Lannister-tichondrius]

Yeah I agree I just want it out there that I’m open to it as the route taken but it’s not my favorite either but some people really think it can be adapted to equate the second theme that’s talked about

Hopefully Blizzard takes note of Void Elves being able to have Void unique options as well as the options that were formerly unique to Blood Elves on the Blood Elf model, and allows Blood Elf players that second set of options with the route they feel is best

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

I crammed in as much of those ideas as my current format would allow.

Here’s the current list with them added.

Blood Elf Ideas

Racial identity options

• Dark Ranger Options.
• San’layn Options. (Possibly through a Quest like Nightwarrior.)
• Felblood Elf Options. (Possibly through a Quest like Nightwarrior.)

Markings

• Rune Tattoos like the Burning Crusade Box Art and Magister Rommath.
• Scars/Burns and Damaged Ears.
• Makeup, Large Markings, (Including Dark Ranger and Phoenix) and nail polish.

Jewelry Improvements/Fixes

• Allow males to use Jewelry.
• More colors for Jewelry. For less clashing with armor/outfits.
• More Jewelry Types. (Chokers, Metal Feathers/Feathers and Eye/Nose/Lip Piercings, Etc.)
• Fix the bracelets so they aren’t pixilated.

Hair

• Separate the Tiaras/Headbands from specific hairstyles.
• Longer/Fancier Hair and Beard/Mustache Styles. Possibly With magical effects.
• Add some more Void Elf hairstyles.

Artwork and pictures

San’layn
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3sMR_rWYAARhFy.png

San’layn concepts by Qualia
https://imgur.com/user/zombiequalia

Dark Ranger
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EezL3cfXYAIGCLY.png

Runic Tattoos
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb3ymP1XkAYJtTh.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUYLeWEXkAQhCvh.jpg

Beards by Naitsade
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec7NW7qX0AAC8yB.png

Beards by Mathptr1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1uZ0kVUAAPBlh.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1uaY8UUAYnRkQ.png

I also added Kul Tiran/Zandalari/Goblin/Troll/Orc/Undead artwork segments.

[Averyx-quelthalas (Averyx)]

I think best case scenario, IF people want something for both Velves and Belves. Would be “High elf” customizations TBH, because those can be shared among both races.

That wouldn’t satisfy us who want void stuff, or belves who want their own stuff. But it’s the easiest path for Blizzard.

So I’m just going to hope for actual velf stuff. only one race would get it but it’s about time the Velf theme was expanded, specially with as little lore and anything else they have.

[Arandi-moon-guard (Arandi)]

Re-posting the request to disconnect human face choices and skin colors. Let us have every face with any skin color, please?

I could never see the reason for this restriction being implemented.

[Balesong-argent-dawn (Balesong)]

@Ariël-drakkari

Under this paradigm, Velves shoould had never ever gotten the High Elf customizations simply because the toons are NOT High Elves, they´re Void Elves, period.

Just like Darkspear Troll players can use Dark Troll aesthetics when we now as per canon lore there is only ONE Dark troll in existence, or they can use the Sunfury skintones while we know Sunfury trolls are pretty much enemies of the Darkspear and the Horde, etc.

Yup, there is no real reason not to implement Dark Ranger customization options. I’ve yet to see any argument against Dark Rangers that doesn’t have logical fallacies, isn’t contingent upon the presenters biases against or dislike for, or isn’t born of immaturity. Using lore as an excuse as to why Blood Elves shouldn’t get Dark Ranger options while there are races who benefit from lore defiant customization options like Darkspear Trolls who have Dark Troll and Sandfury options doesn’t work.

Some of the people making these arguments (not pointing fingers) are using the same arguments used against them. These arguments are the same as the ones disparaged as gatekeeping and the kind people didn’t like hearing. “You’re not actually a high elf/sandfury troll/ Dark Troll/wildhammer.” These are just RP customizations just as Dark Ranger/Undead Elf customization would be. Dark Rangers are undead elven hunters, so I guessing the more accurate name would be undead elves and they can be any class.

I kind of feel like some of the people arguing against Dark Rangers are doing so out of spite. Not saying anyone in this thread is doing it as I don’t like to accuse without basis.

@Samedi-thrall

Let’s all get along let’s all get along let’s all get along and support troll beards forever

Yes, please!

@Averyx-quelthalas

I’m saying dark rangers are a class, not a race. High elves are very much a race.

Yes, they are but if we got another “elf only” class people would have a conniption, despite Dark Rangers no longer being an elf only class (humans and forsaken in addition to night elves and blood elves. I’m basically asking for the option of least resistance from Blizzard. I want to fulfil the visual fantasy at the very least.

@Ariël-drakkari

Wrong, they are Banshees posesing their own dead bodies… and unless you want to pretend 90% of the High Elf kingdom was composed of hunters, fact is, everybody and their mother got indiscriminately killed regardless on their profession, period.

And last time I saw, “Banshees in posesion of their dead body” aren´t a “class”. Heck, you guys already forgot Lorash? Such a shame, cause he happens to be a red eyed, white skinned DEAD Blood Elf AND he´s not a “hunter”.

This was an argument I was about to make.

@Averyx-quelthalas

If they were implemented as special hunter options, they could work, but otherwise there’s jsut no logical way to implement them as customizations.

Easily done actually. If you choose paladin or demonhunter as your class on your blood elf you don’t have the options for Dark Rangers.

@Drede-cairne

I would like to point out that some Blood Elf “Rangers” are actually Rogues and Warriors.

It’s more of a Rank then a class.

Yup.

@Averyx-quelthalas

I’d like that too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Perv

@Phaeliea-nathrezim

Yes, albino option for all. I’m not albino, and I don’t personally know anyone who is, but I find it beautiful and in need of representation.

I knew a woman with albinism, but she passed a while ago from cancer. She loved plants, animals and art. She was talented in both the garden and sketching. I’d love albinistic options for everyone.