I honestly didn’t see it because I’m anima farming on my Goblin Warlock in Korthia so I’m watching for rares, portals, etc. which is why I said if you had apologized then you had an endpoint. I really think one of you needs to leave it at that and stop escalating it because you are both just passing it back and forth because you both want to have the last word and it’s just going in circles now.
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Avarie, don´t bother.
Remember a month (or was it two?) ago, the mayhem that was caused precisely because of this very same behaviour. Sara won´ ever get it simply because she sees no issue with this kind of behaviour regardless on how dangerous or amoral it is, period.
Don´t waste your time.
Language has a real meaning. If you use words that imply vagueness, then the answer is vague no matter how much people dislikes or disagrees.
The question was “where do these people come from” and he said “those people aren´t recruiting but if anyone wants to join they won´t be rejected”, no more and no less. And that´s not a “they deffinitely come from this place” it´s a “maybe some come from this place”.
I don´t remember Sylvanas, Velonara nor any other Third War character getting raised via Val´kyr. Lorash on the other hand was raised via Val´kyr. Like the DK´s who btw, don´t have the visual aestethics the Dark Rangers have -but then again, they aren´t Banshees possesing their dead body-.
So me thinks for starters there isn´t any consistence regarding the “special meaning” process… ergo, NOT a “special process” related to “class”, either, dear.
The most relevant thing is that at the end, if they lorewise speaking belong to the Forsaken or not is irrelevant regarding a customization option that can pretty much be implemented on the race that owns the actual model used to represent that RP experience, period. The Forsaken model is NOT the Belf one and no matter how much you complain, fact is, the implementation as per technnical means is EASIER in the Belf race than in the Forsaken race. Heck, if this ultimately benefits HORDE players, what is the issue if it´s available in Belf and not in Forsaken? No issue involved, if anything it would make for less PvP breaking combos in Belf.
The only thing I see here is people applying double standards and acting like hypocrites, period. You people should abstain from complaining over which race “deserves” to get the customization when you were the first ones to judge and conndemn us for “gatekeeping” your Helfer dream.
Act coherently for ONCE in your lives and don´t act literally like you criticized us… it only rest credibility to your words (and by this I not mean only you, after all you kept some modicum of coherence in your behaviour Averyx… but the other people expressing that BS? yeah no, their words are a joke as per right now).
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Exactly, no more, no less. Is not vague, it’s direct. Thanks.
Those elves studying the void, are indeed void elves as per Danuser’s words.
Never said it was one process or one type, I said it was a “special case”. In the case of Lorash, there’s 2 things.
1, he’s a special character with a fresh undead body that didn’t decay yet. 2, there’s no normal undead belf model, so they are using what they can. Same as any other instance they .
Heck him being a special character is reason enough. After all, Derek produmoore also looks “fresh” if only for being a special character, even though he’s just a normal human undead like the rest.
I’m merely stating the lore’s logic.
Undead high elves don’t look like “pretty elves”, there’s no reason for them to.
Dark rangers are a class, a special case, you said it yourself, banshees taking their bodies.
There’s no “dark ranger mage” or “dark ranger warrior” or “dark ranger demon hunter”. They are at most just hunters.
If they were implemented as special hunter options, they could work, but otherwise there’s jsut no logical way to implement them as customizations.
Now if you want actual undead helves from the fall of silvermoon. Sure, Forsaken should get some options to look like they were helves instead of humans like decayed ears.
Blood Elves should get a second visual theme
to account for RP tools the same way VEs received one at the expense of Blood Elf visual uniqueness.
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I would like to point out that some Blood Elf “Rangers” are actually Rogues and Warriors.
It’s more of a Rank then a class.
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I would like to announce that I am open to receiving gifts of millions of dollars.
Now to wait…
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I am also open to such gifts!
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Wonderful, I´m happy you managed to get Tarrok´s point, then.
Not special if we take into account the Nelves were raised following the same procedure. And humans and who knows what else since Cata. The more you try to justify, the more your “argument” fall to pieces cause to add insult to injury, his model is NOT even “unique”, it´s a dirty regular Belf model but with red eyes and white skin, period.
Fact is, you guys are grasping at straws to deny stuff just because the interest is NOT about the lore or the game, but about bothering other people. I DID complain regarding the Helf customizations but after Blizz chose to entertain it, I stopped, cause my interest wasn´t to screw up other players but to keep the faithfulness of the lore, and unfortunately for me, Blizzard themselves decided that supplying the customers´petition was MORE important than keeping lore accuracy.
You guys on the other hand decided the lore was irrelevant back then but NOW that WE (the hated “antis”) are the ones that may get screwed up, then it´s “oh so important!!” I call that BS, and your previous “I´m such a nice person who will not deny nobody of any customization” stance a clear falsehood. You people by your own behaviour have proven yourselves that your intentions have ZERO correlation with “keeping the lore” and EVERY correlation to screw up other players for the sadistic lols.
Show me the logical “lore” reasoning explaining the Sunfury skins on Darkspear Trolls, I´ll wait (probably forever cause that one? It doesn´t exist, period).
Stop with the false posturing cause you and the likeminded people from the Helfer crowd fool nobody here.
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Nope, you and him are trying to twist into something else saying that doesn’t mean they are getting more people, when it’s actually the explanation why they got more people who look normal now.
Again. Special case, as in, special situation for this character. I explained 3 ways why in the case of Lorash above.
He has a unique model for a forsaken that’s the point. Even above I said it was just the undead model they could use.
Nope. No straws here, literally just stuff coming right from the lore.
Grasping at straws is.“Hey forsaken have some special undead, I bet they are an entire race that can be any type of thing”.
I’m allowed to think some things make sense and some don’t, Why do you always make stuff about you?
Sandfury you mean? Isn’t that because Zandalari have the other trolls under their hand? that was pretty clear. You can see other troll representatives in zandalar after all.
Idk how to DM people or maybe you can’t DM a profile that’s hidden but anyway I get what you were trying to say (basically a topic on provocation).
I don’t think it matters though, especially not for those who constantly fight over the Blood Elf/High Elf/Void Elf thing.
At the end of the day, everyone is responsible for their own actions. And people will do whatever they want to do, just because they can.
No more, no less. Better to not dwell on it.
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Careful with that wouldn’t want you to do us all the favor of making the case for Blood Elf exclusive Farstrider tattoos stronger
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You mean the case you don’t have because you don’t have a single one of those characters?
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You understand the concept of what exactly? Reads to me as justifying victim blaming and justifying harassment / continued harassment (possibly) given the suggestive nature of literally all of his posts on the topic.
If thats the side you get and understand 
I personally understood this post from Avarie the best but if what you understood was his posts on justifying that behavior I guess we’re just different people.
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We all interpret in our own way, and it’s not my place to tell you how you or others interpret something.
I’m just saying to him I understand what he aimed at, but that it’s irrelevant to bring up.
And yet you did, and what a take you had with your understanding for everything he said 
glad to know thats how you view things as well
Would that I could DM them I would’ve, as I stated. But I could not.
I do not, but I don’t think it will stop you from “putting words in my mouth”, so you do you.
Wrong, we are honest people that reads the text honestly.
I wonder how “honest” is the reading you guys promote in this case.
Dear, if we reduce to “special for this individual” then everything becomes an “special case”.
And Lorash wasn´t a Forsaken when he was converted, he was literally converted the same way the humans were converted in Cata and I didn´t see no Forsaken humans becoming Banshees while at it.
You very argument my dear, you already said Lorash is a “special undead”.
So is he a “special undead” or he isn´t? pick a side cause switching to your convenience does nothing but prove more and more my point about you guys not having an argument in the first place.
I made it about “me” cause I am (and not only me, quite a bunch of people if the Belf thread is to be taken into account) the one that will get denied of a customization for my toons just because you people are trying to “enact revenge” on us for absurd reasons.
You people can´t come here to say “I´m pro EVERYBODY´S customizations” just to do a 180° and sprout a bunch of stuff about why x, y and z “don´t make sense, therefore shouldn´t be implemented”.
You can thinks whatever the damn you want and express it as such, but likewise, we have ALL the right in pointing both the failures in your behaviour and your arguments, period.
Headcanon, if you played Horde you would have known the Sandfury AND Amani zones in Dazar´alor are hostile to Horde players and basically questing zones to kill those troll tribes.
So, nope. Your headcanon is not a magical explanation, sorry not sorry.
Sorry I must have misread the part where you express your understanding of what was said on their part that was pretty not cool.
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Lol, I started paying attention more to what I’m doing in game but I just seen these and thought me too so me too. 
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I´m busy putting hypocrites in their place, but please count me in regarding that sweet million too.
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