There’s lots I don’t support or want personally but I support it because friends or others want it, for example I’m the complete opposite where stuff like tattoos aren’t my thing at all because I won’t or don’t use them but undead elf customizations are. 
Hopefully they’ll turn the odd scowl bug into a toggle to make all parties happy.
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My dear Lann… people either vouchs for honest exclusive aesthetics or they don´t.
And I find most people walking back on that fence depending on their agenda, so… maybe it´s a wasted effort. I´m about to throw in the towel. Apparently demanding a measure of real uniqueness is worthless.
So literally MANIPULATING the magical source isn´t “good enough” but getting passively irradiated was?
Explain the reasoning behind this premise.
Also, Malfurion´s green eyes, nuff said cause that isn´t Arcane either dear. It´s “nature” a.k.a. Life cosmical energy. Btw the kind of Blood magic source used by te Belves is coincidentally RA´S BLOOD… a TITAN´S blood. So Arcane, yes?
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I guess you disagree with a second visual theme then and thats fine.
Because thats what people who want that for BEs are asking for an additional theme as in we don’t currently have that so you’d be correct in saying its currently not available. That’s what a second visual theme would be its an additional theme so yes its an additional thing.
And with VEs having two themes at BEs expense I find it more important, but I’ve never been picky on where the second visual theme comes from though with a heavy bias on undead which I already know where you fall but there have been other ideas.
In any case it doesn’t change my stance on Farstrider options being exclusively Blood Elf, though I do have a head ache just thinking about people trying to poach that too and we haven’t even gotten it yet.
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God I want those dark black eyes so hard.
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Hmm… not sure thats on my list or not… adding it in.
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Well, when I try to propose an idea that would be unique to blood elves, so San’layn, immediately void elf players demand that as well. I therefore just sigh and nod because if it’s the only way to get what I’ve been wanting for 3 years, then that’s how it is. If Blizzard is so intent on keeping the faction barrier in tact, then yes, tossing those ideas to the Alliance only would 100% mean the majority of fans that have been asking for it would be entirely short changed.
And like… void elves have the ability to have special void customizations. They are also asking for more, rightfully, for their void theme. They also have the ability to look like normal elves.
So… yes, I can see why, and lean toward agreeing with those who do want Dark Ranger/San’layn exclusive to the horde. Because void elves already have two themes. Unless blood elves also get felblood customization, and San’layn/dark ranger, I see it as really unfair.
Because then void elves could be void elves, San’layn, and high elves. Blood elves would still have just two, San’layn and blood elves in that scenario. And no, eye color isn’t a distinction, I’m talking about all out crazy customization. Like void elf tentacle hair, starry night hair, etc and how San’layn fangs & claws would be unique.
I guess I can say I would be more okay with vampyr going to both blood & void elves if blood elves also got felblood elves, and void elves did not get felblood elves, because void elf customization won’t ever go to blood elves and technically shouldn’t given the sunwell effect.
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Okay, let’s take a pause on the Elf talk, and talk about the Troll and Tauren instead.
Trolls needs green skin (for the forest troll customization) and beards.
Tauren, especially the female, needs new faces. We still only have 4 faces — and Blizzard changed the lips on all of them.
Pre-WoD the Tauren lips were like this… :]
Post-WoD the Tauren lips are now like this… :3
While they don’t bother me as long as I don’t look, they really bother other Tauren players.
So how about it, Blizzard?
Give Trolls beards and Tauren new faces with real cow lips instead of camel lips!
Edit: And the Forsaken needs curly hair too!
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They are also lacking on the Void options, and BEs are lacking a second visual theme. So why then are they already asking for a third additional theme that they want as a sub race type idea basically
I for one would love to see some Pandaren customization discussion, but unfortunately they’re not too popular of a race 
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this is all we need imo. i dont think we need san’layn if blizzard keeps our culture and heritage unique to blood elves. if its not found in quel’thalas im not really interested in it speaking for myself
velves didnt just get a race with 2 themes. they flat out got a horde race. only thing equal is getting an alliance race option
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That’s a good question, I don’t know, and am a bit frustrated but tired of arguing at this point. I think I’ve driven my point into the ground at this point, and gave my ideas enough. If blizzard takes them, fine. I don’t know why I bother at this point given I’m not happy here anyway. Perhaps I’m doing it for the sliver of hope that what I’d been suggesting for so long would finally make it into the game. I don’t know.
Regardless, I’m stepping away now.
Additionally, yes, I support troll beards for sure, and other suggestions for non-elves said here for the most part as well, I hope you folks get what you wish. Hope the scowl issue is fixed for night elves too. Hope void elves also get new void stuff. Hope blood elves get scars & tattoos. Hope dwarves get their wildhammer lore, hope more classes are open up, hope for worgen tails + jet black fur, hope for some more Azerothian/outland ARs like Ogres, Setherak, Arakkoa, Saurok, Vry’kul, Etherals, San’layn (if not customization), et cetra.
Edit: Pandaren customization and druids would be great as well.
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I guess that means we should advocate against it since it’s something you are supporting or wanting, especially after what you have said about San’layn tonight.
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That’s fair enough, I feel we need that and a second visual theme, there should be some part of the main HE theme that BEs have that VEs don’t have access too just like we don’t have access to core Void options, and then something to compliment the fact the AR now can be void or non void, Blood Elves should have that imo as well something besides the main theme.
If it makes you feel any better I will give you all the hindsight credit for having been right the entire time about these threads, because had VEs not gotten what they did I would agree and I would be okay with that scenario. Maybe VEs would have more void options to show for it today too.
So like using humans as an example that I’ve seen you use before I still would feel BEs got the short end of the stick because while it answers the point on a faction issue BEs would still then not be able to choose two thematic options the way Void Elves can
All of this crap that I had force myself to read has convinced me that having copied races in a faction based game was the absolutely wrong decision to make.
There are so many issues with just the Nightborne and the Void Elves that it makes the entire allied race system not worth it.
Does anyone who works at this company think about consequences?
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I just seen this and since you are someone I really like a lot it makes me sad so I wanted to send some hugs your way. 
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They have asked for that too cause apparently having available the warlock class makes you a guaranteed recipient of the features yes or yes… and Light features attached to their “Voidins” while at it.
Dreadlocks… Trolls needed dreadlocks like yesterday considering they have a very noticeable caribbean influence. And this kind of haircuts are VERY popular in the coast of caribbean countries.
Also, if we are going to step away from the elf theme, I´ll pick on the weight to promote Forsaken stuff. The thread you guys can check and hopefully participate in cause the neglect on the race is criminal:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/forsakenundead-customization-megathread/1074532
My own outrageous list of suggestions I´ll copy in here:
- Toggle option to make members (hands, arms, feet, legs) appear purely skeletal with pieces of muscle hanging from them (think something like the effect the moonlight hand on this movie):
https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-The-Curse-of-the-Black-Pearl/images/Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-The-Curse-of-the-Black-Pearl-0802.jpg
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Option to pick the skin color of the members ((hands, arms, feet, legs) separately from the torso and head (remember, if Forsaken are out there raiding cementeries to pick “spares” I don´t think they spent too much time trying to mix and match with their own original skin tone).
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The return of the old SKELETAL face, please? Or at least something more resembling to it than the current option.
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Extra teeth / serrated teeth on the jawless and partially falling jaw face options (ala deadites):
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/evildead/images/e/ed/EdDeaditeED2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170502014145
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Guts in a jar (If it looks cool on the abominations it looks cool everywhere, period).
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More evident muscle and skin tears on the face and neck (I know we kinda have something “similar” available but frankly those options need to get up to the times, they are dated and it´s noticeable):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZm9mQTwdTg
https://jambareeqi.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/muppety-e1497271880307.jpg?w=640
- Finally, a toggle to add insects (scarabs, spiders, cockroaches) and / or worms on the face -like in an eye socket- or the hair (still not sure about which place… heck, both seem great options, maybe in both hehehe).
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nightbone share nothing with night elves. different model with its own aesthetic and themes. while void elves are a soulless clone of blood elves atm
the only equivalence to what void elves got would be letting forsaken have living options
Yes! I didn’t think of that but yes!
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Considering you are monster lover, I´d like to see your opinion on the Forsaken suggestions´ thread when you have the time. That poor thread is neglected AF by the players, truly sad.
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