When was the last time you said something positive or gave any kind of feed back that made sense? Telling people “to get over it” is not positive nor is it feed back that makes sense.
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Here you go:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/potential-design-for-four-spec-hunter-all-spellsabilitiestalents-and-how-to-make-pets-engaging-again/529382
Lots of feedback and ideas for improving the class. What feedback have you contributed again? “Shut up”?
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We will continue to advocate for the return of ranged surv. I have three hunters. Had one for each spec. Melee survival isn’t fun for me. So I fight to get back what I want.
Beast mastery is kinda fun. But I’ve always hated pet pathing. With that said I’ve hunted out a lot of rarer pets and challenges.
Marks is clunky is every aspect of the game. And Currently needs a more reliable Stun, escape, sustainable dmg work.
Old survival had all of these things. Soooooo maybe you’re the one who needs to move on.
Advocate for your positive changes to melee survival and let us push for a fourth spec
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The difference between you and the crusaders… you actually tried it. You didn’t like it and would like it back. That is all fine. Some others just like to hate on it, but they dont even play retail and/or never even tried the new survival.
Not saying to stop asking for it, but Ghorak made a thread on it, for 4th spec. I dont believe it is realistic, but thats a good thing. Go support that thread. Instead you have trolls that just replies spec deleted durp durp bring it back, aka playing im more a victim than others.
I would like some true improvements to marksmen. Not only is it clunky in pvp/pve. But it underperforms as well.
Beast mastery won’t improve until pet pathing improves. It did somewhat better when blink strikes was active (pet blinked to the target and attacked) when my pet sits there and doesn’t attack…I go a little nuts lol
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That’s a bit extreme.
You have literally told people that RSV is gone and to get over it and that a 4th spec isn’t going to happen…
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Not sure who you are talking about. I played Hunter for half of Legion before dropping it, including trying to play melee Survival.
What exactly is the point of your posting though? Blizzard messed up in other areas too, therefore its ok that they deleted a spec?
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I post on a monk because snowflakes got my hunter named banned and it hasn’t switched over.
Too bad your old survival is never coming back. Good luck to you. Hope they boost current SV so there is more representation in arena.
Right, it was the snowflakes who got your name banned. Couldn’t have been that Blizzard found it in violation of the rules and banned it as a result.
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Correct you would think a million dollar organization would have a better filter for names. Guess not.
If you recall the huntard name… they all rolled DH. Go play that class and leave SV alone.
Thanks everyone who isn’t stuck in the past.
Ya, screw the third of the Hunter playerbase that dropped the class between WoD and now. They don’t matter. Don’t they know that literally every change that Blizzard ever makes is objectively superior to everything that came before it? I suppose only enlightened folk like yourself are privy to that particular bit of absolute truthiness. /s
Also, using the term ‘huntard’ unironically. But nah we’re the ones stuck in the past, lol.
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Life is full of disappointment and changes. Someday you will be an adult.
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Filter, well if ppl, or a group of them, just spam report you on name it gets automatically banned / changed sadly. Abusing the system, some are.
Jokes on you. I never cared for SV. I’ve been MM since Vanilla.
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You almost got it. What did they do to rogues in Legion? Drastically re work them and make them actually different! They even re-named Combat and gave it a unique RNG mechanic (which was not loved by many). They decided to re-work survival and make it melee because it literally had no identity or fanbase. Stop post-hoc getting upset about a spec that never had a huge community behind it like MM and BM.
Hunters in WoD were literally instant shot garbage. The peak of class design? give me a break.
When Demo was re-worked in Legion and Meta was taken from it and given to DH and had no mechanics carry over, was demo “deleted?” When specs go through crazy re-designs and play literally nothing like they did before, are they deleted? This is a stupid point. MM may as well have been “Deleted” because it plays NOTHING like it did in previous iterations.
Personally, I dislike survival because I think it’s a confused hot mess of a spec.
I played survival in wod, I liked it. I was upset when they nerfed survival hard, then announced they were making it melee next expansion.
I then played survival in Legion. It was weak, it had a lot of design issues that were just straight up ignored by devs during testing, and its mastery was straight up bugged and not working right for the first two months after release. I enjoyed that too despite the issues. I played survival most of the way through Nighthold, then eventually switched to BM because my guild needed more ranged.
I do not like the current iteration of survival though. It feels like they tried to make it some mish-mash of legion and wod survival, trying to compromise to make it more ranged, but it just feels like the spec is confused and thrown together.
So now I have one less ranged spec, and a spec that is less fun than either of the other specs.
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Because if there is anything that responsible adults do, it is ignoring history.
Unless you can provide numbers that prove that nobody liked SV you are just pulling it out of thin air. Why do you think there are people on the forums asking to have it back? Why do you think Hunters lost a third of their playerbase when ranged SV was removed? Do you just ignore those things or write them off to sheer coincidence?
As for Rogues, yes they changed. Combat changes its name, but Outlaw still is way closer to Combat than melee SV is close to ranged SV. You still have main gauche, you still have sinister strike, you still have adrenaline rush, you still have blade flurry, you still have killing spree, Slice and Dice was returned to you for free. Outlaw Rogue still has the vast majority of what made Combat Combat. The same cannot be said for melee SV. Imagine if they made Outlaw Rogue a ranged DPS spec and removed all the abilities I mentioned as well as forcing them to use ranged weapons? Maybe then it would compare to what happened to Survival.
You not liking instant casts isn’t the same as a spec being class design garbage.
Demonology is still a ranged DPS spec that focused on summoning demons. Still has the large majority of spells and abilities it had in WoD. No, it doesn’t have Meta anymore, and that sucks, but Survival lost way more than a single ability.
Survival lost the ranged weapon, which was the identifying aspect of being a Hunter. That would be like if Demonology Warlocks lost all of their non-demon related spells and were forced to attack in melee range. It isn’t a redesign if you just delete everything about the spec and replace it with abilities that are completely new to the class and play nothing like it. That isn’t what happened with Demonology Warlocks. That is what happened with Survival Hunters.
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LOL Yoda speak, LOVE THIS, I DO.
I like how other specs losing basically their key identifying features, isn’t comparable to the loss of RSV. Denial my friend, Denial.
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