it really does though. hunter is the first class to ever have a spec outright deleted. having that kind of investment just to see it completely destroyed by people who have no clue what they are doing, it’s rage inducing.
24 Likes
- Its not only about SV, its about the Hunter class as a whole
- Its alot easier to complain than compliment. No one ever takes the time to say something positive. The moment you can say something negative, it comes out quick.
- The comments hardly speak againts it, most says they miss the lnl + explo / black arrow abilities.
- Bellular is mostly speaking against all 3 spec, hating all 3. Is he really? Or just using strats to get more reaction/views.
Lets use your “deleted” term then,
Spriest old spec was deleted, same as combat, enhancement, demo lock and etc. They all got their old spec deleted. None of them play like they used to.
To say hunter had it worst, is being that kid in school saying my dad had it worst than yours.
2 Likes
You’re absolutely right. Just a few crusaders are the ones causing the drama. Everyone else is in agreement that ranged SV should be returned as a fourth spec, but haters like you and Darkeforge only seem to exist on these forums to tell everyone to get over it and that the spec they loved and played for years was identical to MM (which is clearly wrong) and deserved to be deleted.
You guys are the only ones causing drama here. Everyone else is in agreement on what to do.
Ya, because there is nothing positive to say about Blizzard deleting an entire spec.
20 Likes
I figured you say this which is why I brought up the comments.
You clearly missed my point so I’ll spell it out. If melee survival was as popular as you claim, you’d think at least 1 person would have spoken positively about it or told belluar he was wrong or something. The closest you got was 1 person saying they liked legion sv.
11 Likes
Its like one extreme or another with you guys ? You think when I say its being played that its the most popular of all, that they are literally everywhere. No I ain’t saying that at all… why would you think that? I’m saying its being played, that it ain’t super dead as some ppl claim, that it is within the average numbers a good living spec would have.
and you didn’t read:
1 Like
Keep moving those goalposts, it works so well for you.
No one said it was super dead or not played. People say it’s mostly hated and it’s unpopular and the reason why a lot of people quit playing hunters.
Oh I read it. It’s irrelevant.
12 Likes
irrelevant… yet nearly all his replies are people complaining… even those that say something positive goes like: I love X spec, but -insert paragraph of complaints-
It is relevant, it is how humans are… heck these forums (not just hunter) is a huge example… no matter where you go… its mostly complaints / whine / i hate this / change this.
1 Like
It’s irrelevant because not 1 person in more than 100k could even muster up anything positive to say about the current state of survival.
14 Likes
shadow priest was changed but not all at once. they were changed over time. the main mechanic of spriest changed but the entirety of the spec wasn’t changed. same for enhancement. it is still about being a melee user of the elements. their game play did change, but the spec didn’t change on a fundamental basis. demo lock is the same too. they changed demo lock from being about becoming a demon to summoning hordes but it is still about demons.
the only one i’ll give you is combat rogue and that happened at the same time as hunter. though combat rogue wasn’t deleted and turned into a ranged spec so combat had a lesser degree of change but still severe change.
that doesn’t change that fact that survival was deleted, what replaced it was half baked (would prefer a different term), and now they are giving up on it without doing anything. i get i have my personal opinion and others have theirs. they may like the current trash that is survival but i don’t. i only speak for myself.
if you try to say i’m wrong because of other peoples OPINIONS, then i can say you’re wrong based on my opinion and those who share it.
9 Likes
How can I even reply - argue with you when you’ve thrown any logic reasoning out the window. I’ll let you think on this and re-read, to let you realize what was said.
The spriest class forum would like a word with you concerning void form and all the changes that came with it.
Im sorry, but my spec got “deleted” in legion. I literally stopped playing the spec since.
The warlock class forum would like to have a word with you concerning that change.
See, this would be the only one I’d let go, since its similar to what it used to be.
Just like spriest, demo lock, enh shaman, etc.
Well you’ve said it, personal opinion. They are happy with the changes and so are many other hunters. You think its trash, I think it is the best out of the 3. Most mobile, versatile and filled with utility.
2 Likes
As enhance player as well, shaman and hunter been two of my fav classes, the changes to enhance was nothing compared to sv. we went from a proc based to builder spender back to proc based in sl. The biggest thing i hate bout shaman changes is loss of totems as baseline but i can see those not liking totems. However having to retalent into totems vs losing range sv to melee doesnt compare.
11 Likes
Amusing. You say it’s easier to complain rather than compliment. And then you say that no one ever says anything positive. A patently false statement. People say positive things all the time. The “ease” of saying negative things over saying positive things does not negate the fact that in more than 100k people not a single person could muster up anything positive to say about the current state of survival.
8 Likes
Why being so rude? I started playing in BFA and I enjoy the spec. So someone should spit on me?
3 Likes
Why should you care? If you’re enjoying it, play it.
2 Likes
So after reading the replies I’m curious about the original ranged SV spec. I only started in BFA and I know how BM and MM are different. But it’s just difficult for me to imagine that there was another ranged spec have a completely different yet fun play style that a lot of people loved. What was the play style of SV before this melee spec?
1 Like
And playing a Character with glowing Flame hair isn’t?
/nextslide
I don’t play SV for 2 reasons:
- it replaced my fav spec and i don’t support deleting it.
- BM is essentially a better and more useful 40 yd range version of SV
19 Likes
I imagine that it didn’t see this level of hate becuase in Vanilla and TBC, SV wasn’t a hashed out spec as we have all discussed. It simply modified existing abilities and most hunters were either MM or BM, with some SV talents.
Of course RSV wouldn't see hate like current SV does,when it was added, because it was a brand new spec. Something no one had experienced before. That's a much different scenario than a spec being completely redesigned by Blizzard and changed within the game.
I like Survival. My friend(who is also a Survival main) turned me back on to playing WoW by telling my about it.
So, in fact, it’s so fun that I came back out of WoW retirement just to play it. And it’s a blast!
Sure, I miss Black Arrow, Lock and Load and Explosive shot but current Survival is an infinitely more fun spec to play.
They basically took that subset of utility that old (Vanilla-Wrath era) hunter had with Wing Clip, Raptor and Mongoose and turned it into a full on survivalist feeling spec!
I find it so funny how Survival used to be the least played spec and now when they changed it something with a stronger identity, suddenly “everyone” misses their old spec. Or my old spec got deleted.
Vanilla-Mop was dominated by even patches of Beast Mastery or Markesman with the rare few playing Survival. There were like one or two hot minutes worth of patches where Ranged Survival shined but it was mostly years of BM and MM.
I’m just saying the spec is super fun now and I succeed in PvP and PvE content with it.
6 Likes
Tons of folks are just hating to hate hard.
They’ve never touched survival, never will, but will continue to hate it hard. When really if there is to be any anger from them, it should be toward the designers, not the spec.
Like a child being angry at the cake his parents made, because it aint what he wanted… So out of hate he wont eat it, but the cake taste super good.
1 Like