Why Stormheim didn't work as an excuse to start the war

[Mernna-moon-guard]

Basically, they were saying that if the Horde used Stormheim as a rallying crying, Anduin would reprimand/investigate, and Genn would react a certain way. But we already know Anduin reprimanded him and Genn responded a specific way, irrelevant of the perception. Genn never gave any seemingly strong defense of his actions. Just accepted the rebuke.

ah, my mistake. The idea was that a formal declaration of war from the horde citing Stormheim as its reasoning would have prompted a different response from Genn via both the heightened stakes and him being made aware of the fact that the horde was using Stormheim as an excuse for the war. Which I was assuming would circle back to the scenario in the OP.

As it stands now Genn was rebuked for Stormheim privately (which as Drahliana mentioned means nothing basically) and lost nothing nor was he threatened with anything as a result…like say, a war starting up based on his actions that might cause him to speak up as no one on the alliance was ever given any reason as to why this war began. As far as the alliance knows in the current story Sylvanas just jumped up and went “time to kill some elves.”

Either that or maybe that think it occurred as a result of the gathering. Actually now i’ll pose another question, do we have any real clue as to why the alliance thinks the horde started the war?

EDIT: In reference to Etheldad’s post below me we can dismiss the last two sentences of this post previous to this edit!

[Etheldald-ragnaros (Etheldald)]

i mean, if stormheilm was the reason the war would start why sylvanas never demanded genn’s head or something like that ?

do we have any real clue as to why the alliance thinks the horde started the war?

Azerite

[Drahliana-earthen-ring (Drahliana)]

Actually now i’ll pose another question, do we have any real clue as to why the alliance thinks the horde started the war?

Well, Sylvannas did start things by a surprise attack on the Night Elves after pulling what was pretty much a Cold War feint with Silithus.

I don’t think anyone is going to seriously dispute this statement.

[Imerus-moon-guard (Imerus)]

formal declaration of war from the horde

Why even make it formalized? That itself seems very unlikely.

[Gharion-ragnaros (Gharion)]

Okay. I missed this entire mess on account replaying skyrim with an arthas lookalike and farming rusbolt and waveblade reps.

Did we manage to arrive to an actual conclusion this time or was neither side convinced by the other (again)?

[Ollanu-dalaran]

The circles they never end

[Shieyra-thrall]

Did we manage to arrive to an actual conclusion this time or was neither convinced by the other (again)?

It’s 200+ posts of people tying themselves in knots trying to figure out how attempting to assassinate the leader of a sovereign nation isn’t actually an act of war. Do you really think they got anywhere? lmao.

[Gharion-ragnaros (Gharion)]

I mean, i personally think Sylvanas lost her high ground when she indulged Magni and Anduin in their attemps at peace. Otherwise the world would just be full of people waging war for insults commited 20+ yrs ago when no one cares or remembers anymore.

But hey, thats just my 2 cents.

(Now im gonna retire quietly into the night to look for more skyrim mods- feel free to throw a few my way)

[Hordehacker-nagrand (Hordehacker)]

Stormheim didn’t start a war because sylvanas didn’t openly declare it as the reason. Not to mention if she had it would have also become apparent what she was upto there and we all know how Baine feels about her taking free will from beings. Probably would have started a Horde civil war back on Legion.

Not to mention the Alliance and Horde also work together in Suramar, if the Horde had decided that it was open war at the time they’re warchief wouldn’t have allowed that.

Not to mention the agreement to have a peaceful meeting in Arathi between they’re people.

Just because Saurfang is apparently happy to ignore all that and agree to war afterwards is on him and his desire to die in battle.