Trying to compare politics to a game is a bit of a stretch. One has real world impact, and the other has azeroth impact.
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One thing I’m kind of interested in is the Night Elves post Darkshore. I mean, Tyrande getting angry at the Alliance is one thing, but then she goes and hands over the Sentinels to Maiev.
That’s actually huge, if Blizzard capitalise on it. Maiev’s not known for playing nice, even with her allies, so if they stick with that route then you could see some really exciting tensions within the Night Elves themselves, but also between the Night Elves and Stormwind/Anduin as well.
I don’t want to get too ahead of myself since I’ll probably be disappointed, but there’s actually potential there for some genuinely interesting story development for the Alliance.
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I was making a point by demonstrating that you would not even consider allowing such a misbalance in the real world because you know that would cause trouble for the party not represented.
Same thing here, but just causing trouble for the faction not represented.
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In the end I do wonder how Wow will end… will our characters die … I am curious how do you all think this game will end story wise…
I mean its going to end in the next few years regardless Blizzard is already investing less time and money into it… patches take longer to come out then they use to among other issues…
Still a good game… But I just cant see it lasting beyond 2024 ( or 2 expansions from now basically ) … Their running out of ideas and original stuff.
it is same like saying why ps4 has more exclusive games then Xbox one .
Just like I own both the consoles .i own both alliance and horde characters in game . I don’t have to choose between them .i look at both sides of conflict .sorry you guys have to waste half of your life babbling about pride and Honor lol
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There isn’t a need to balance the representation from the developers tho. It’s not comparable to politics because nobody gains anything in wow from being biased towards one faction or another.
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when you have demi gods like malfurion and now the avatar of vengeance of elune who are both millenia old veterens of multiple wars, that are getting beaten back by a zombie with a bow who has 0 power of his own, you know the story has jumped the shark/nuked the fridge.
at every point of the alliance almost having something awesome happen to them for once, blizz just make the horde moustache twirl and make it a win for them instead.
the plot armor on the horde is aizen level thick. how many cities does the alliance need to lose? how many times does the horde get to make the alliance heroes look like chumps? the storytelling in wow has been a travesty. i long for the days of warcraft 3. i want warcraft 4 so badly with a time skip to 80-100 years into azeroths future. i also dont get how blizz can still keep the mentality of the horde being the underdogs when they are so ultimately protected by blizzard when none of the story makes sense for the horde to be in any position to start a war.
75% of the orcs sided with garrosh, plus his loyalist tauren, darkspears, and goblins which were taken out during the horde civil war 1.0. the forsaken are dying out, they cannot increase in numbers because theres no babies happening for them and within the lore they are supposed to only be able to raise humans as troops ( meanwhile somehow they are raising night elves now… ). it makes 0 sense that the horde are in any position to be starting a war and for the alliance not to be walking all over them with there sheer volume of omega power level characters on the alliance side. and the focussing iris and the disco ship. and multiple guardian of azeroth level powered mages, and dragon aspects etcs.
TLDR: blizzards storytelling is nonsensical in BFA, and the horde has the thickest of plotarmors applied to them in this xpack, that the entire story is a farce at this stage.
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Humans are always the lamest, they exist in real life thus are less interesting by default.
Lord of the Rings Main Characters are all Hobbits, and before you bring up Aragorn, he’s not a pure Human, he’s got elf Blood, he’s like 86 during the Trilogy in the lore. Gondorian Nobles I think are all descended from Elves as well, they don’t count. And If you want to get desperate and use Talion, he’s a Zombie fused to an Elf Ghost.
Game of Thrones barely has the Non Humans as the focus, but when they were on screen I always went "Yo, more of these guys.’ and then got angry when they got sidelined more.
‘Wheel of Time’ No comment, don’t know about the seires.
‘Stormlight Archive’ Same, In fact that’s the first time I’ve heard the name.
Marvel really? Your going with that? 3 of the most popular characters are a Talking Raccoon, a Tree Man, and a God. Non humans. And pretty much any X-Men character worth mentioning is a mutant and thus not a human. And that’s not getting into the mess that is the Inhumans (No entirely human.) You basically just got Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Spider Man, and Black Panther on that end.
And should I even count Spiderman given a radioactive spider altered his DNA to do things a human is not able to do?
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You’re splitting hairs if your only defense is ‘well, technically, the X-men aren’t necessarily humans and some of the key characters in LoTR have some elf blood,’ and if you think a “Talking Raccoon, a Tree Man, and a God” are the most popular characters in Marvel, you need to broaden your horizons.
I’ll use a more main stream reference then. Batman and Joker.
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I just used Cinematic universe characters because those are the ones most people know, but if we go obscure we got Mutants like Marrow, Caliban, and Dust.
Santa Claus the Omega Level Mutant (Yes really.)
Well yeah, if you use DC you got Batman and Joker.
You also have Superman, an Alien.
And Martian Manhunter.
And Metahumans like Static Shock.
Batman and Joker are the exception to me, not the rule.
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Agreed, if they can’t stop bashing alliance they need to at least bash both sides evenly. As well as, in the event they invite another “corpsegrinder”, also invite an alliance equivalent, though in this latter case I’d prefer the alliance corpsegrinder equivalent solo THEN keep the side even.
Well, I’d also say part of the problem is “is it easy to write interesting humans while keeping set views, like the white knight riding to save the day”. As in the case of all you listed, they were humans but also in roles, well, more filled by the Horde in WoW. Not saying Blizzard can’t write humans as such, if they cared to, but Blizzard is stuck in what seems to be “humans (and by extension alliance ) are lawful good” mind set that they JUST started breaking.
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I don’t think there’s much that can be done unfourtunatley. The only thing people should do is play the faction they enjoy most. I play alliance because I like it, I won’t give into my friends or guild members who went horde. To me, I’m puzzled by this, I don’t enjoy horde, and I can’t enjoy the game on that side, and won’t give into the pressure. Giving in only furthers the problem. While I’m only one player I still believe I’m making a difference by sticking to my faction and being loyal. Enough people do that and blizzard will some day realize people don’t actually like the horde it’s just the faction “where my friends play.”
Edit: for clarity, I have 1 horde at max level, a Nightborne Monk/368 ilvl that I play with some guild mates. Outsides of that I strictly told myself that is the only horde toon I’ll make again for the foreseeable future.
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Let’s not forget that the devs are the ones who made the Alliance all humans to begin with.
Zappy Boi, Sylvanas, and Saurfang.
Troll, Undead/Blood Elf, Orc
Good diversity there for the Horde in cutscenes.
Anduin and Genn
Human and Human Druid
Yeah, not so much here.
Where’s our Michael Bay film of Gelbin and his mechs going to town on the Horde? Or how about having Muradin, Moira, and Falstead representing the Dwarves?
But, no. Humans are boring, so let’s keep making sure they’re the only ones with screen time, right?
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Aren’t him and Gallywix having a Mech Battle in the next patch?
Both factions here, even started alliance (changed pre-BC before the Blood Elves but I was driven away more by alliance players at that time). Even though I main Horde I at least like the Alliance story. I want the issues addressed because lack of players on alliance side make it harder to get groups for things in order to experience the content, through either longer queues (even for holiday things) or just pure lack of players/groups going.
I connect more with the Horde, and will likely remain with them barring a 3rd faction being formed. Though if I had friends alliance side to at least run things with, I’d be hard pressed to justify my horde focus.
That’s my point, and in my experience over the years that seems to accurately asses most people’s feelings.
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Not really the same as Lost Honor or Old Soldier or the BfA opening cinematic, which is what I was talking about.
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Fair enough, I’m kinda disappointed we didn’t have a massive fight between small armies of mechs.
That’d be baller as heck.
Maybe like Gundam, but without pseudo philosophy and trying to say war is bad by using war with giant robots.
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For alliance atm, if the ptr darkshore story goes live. It’ll just be another slap in the face to alliance/nightelf players. You can’t prevent the nightelves from being raised. If anything the nigthtwarrior story is just garbage. Tyrande gives a speech that’s suppose to be somehow a victory when it isn’t. You loose Sira, Delaryn and other night elves to the forsaken. Alliance has lost to much already, this is just gas being thrown on the fire by the devs that are clearly horde bias. Alex , Ion then try to act as if they give a care about it when they don’t. There more focused on progressing Sylvannas’s story along more then anything. They don’t care about alliance, they only care for alliance subs$. Go check out the nightwarrior campaign for yourself and see if it isn’t garbage. Then tell others about it let them know.
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I’m with you. So far the entire BFA story is about Sylvanas. Stuff she does, and people reacting to stuff she does. That, defacto, makes this a horde expansion. The story is all about your latest warchief going bonkers. The alliance’s role is to tut-tut about it.
The alliance switches between being complete idiots (horde intro scenario in Stormwind), to plot device winners (jaina miraculously gets strong at battle of Lordaeron after being a complete tool in the horde stormwind scenario).
NOT IMPRESSED.
That said, The horde side, while the center of the story, isn’t any better. Why does everybody want to start a huge war? Cause our waifu wants it, that’s why!
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