Why, Rather. How are people so bad?

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I don’t understand, I am baffled. Never have I considered myself and elitest… I still don’t. . but I am starting to believe a large majority of players in this game should be blacklisted by some sort of in game community option, or addon.

It is the last patch of the expansion. The same dungeons have been going on for just under 2 years with little to no changes. People are overly geared, extremely buffed by corruptions, and still can’t carry their own weight. Nor do mechanics right. I am not asking for much, just do your job.

I am rather anti social. I don’t join a “guild” - for a rather selfish reason. I have my own for an Account Shared Storage (If blizzard would implement one I could possibly join a guild). Even before that, when I did join guilds it was the same. Just bad people at the game everywhere. I find decent people in pugs and add them to B-net, and then from then on I am either ignored or they are “too busy”.

So, I pug. It is almost always a disaster. I originally Tanked, and I liked it. Until my Blood DK was doing more damage then all the DPS I would invite. Using IO and ilvl as bench marks. Which then forced me to go DPS - just so things would die. Now I am doing double the damage of the person in Second, and even more then the one in Third. I average between 70-80k overall. Nothing special, nothing to be pat on the back for… but all these people with similar ilvl, similar io, do 40k… MAYBE 50k… And more often then not 30-35k…

Like, HOW?! How is that physically possible with 475ilvl… 1500-2k io, 39-59 Corruption on!? HOW CAN YOU DO SO LITTLE.
Then, when someone actually does a decent amount of damage, they can’t dodge the simplest mechanics, or interrupt, or kite… or anything. They can only do damage by tunneling.

Then they get mad when we wipe. They think they are better then they are, and the everyone is worse and Rage quit. While I am carrying them, and trying to continue - they leave and the slightest inconvenience…

I don’t think I can do it anymore. I want to play, but… Not with these people. My sanity just can’t handle anymore. How is everyone so bad at this game? The only good people seem to be in solid groups.

I know everyone thinks they are better then they are, myself included…
I just know that in a dungeon I am doubling seconds DPS, and dying half the time of everyone else… I don’t know what to do anymore.

Sorry for the Rant - I am just burnt out from all the… bads… I really am. Is it just… too casual of a game now? I sincerely don’t get it.

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In the same sense that people are can be “gifted”, there are those that are on the other end of the spectrum. It applies to all parts of life. Some people are just not good at things, no matter how hard they try. It all comes down to genetics, IE, how our individual brains work.

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Not everyone’s been playing all expansion. Those dungeons might be new to some people.

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maybe so, but I think that people should have to do their first run through as dps because if they don’t know the map they shouldn’t tank

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You run into so many bad players in pugs because the vast majority of the good players stick with a known group of equally skilled players.

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What did the first tanks do though? They wouldn’t have been able to do it as DPS. Someone had to be the first to enter that dungeon as a tank.

I don’t mind if someone wants to learn the dungeon first as a tank.

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If someone is 460+ ilvl and doesn’t know how to dodge mechanics or interrupt or even dps to an efficient level then there is no excuse imo.

If you can’t hold your own weight then don’t join a mythic plus and waste other people’s time and key.

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You can get 460 through mostly solo content now. Item level doesn’t mean anything.

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I got to 460+ by being a heroic raider. I haven’t done a lot of M+ this expansion and can still mess up in some areas. I like to think I can hold my own but I’ll be the first to admit I’m not a perfect player.

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I knew a guy once who kept complaining similarly about how he was blowing past everyone. Turns out he’d messed his damage meter addon up somehow and he was in reality not doing any better, usually worse, than most other DPS.

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That would be a really satisfying conclusion to intolerant posts like this, not gonna lie.

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Paid carry , it seems more and more are doing this . If its become so noticeable.

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I have a hard time believing he’s doing 80k sustained on a level 80 priest. They’re just not that good yet.

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Pugs are like this throughout the game (see LFR, leveling dungeons).

Whenever I level a character Dire Maul is pretty good for that sort of thing; as are timewalking dungeons (TW Skyreach was a cascading disaster of people failing mechanics hard and dropping). My stupid self queued for heroic (as the LFD tool defaults to that) at level 100 with my paladin by accident, but that was actually easier than TW. Yeesh.

My personal favorite is a tank that can’t manage the basic mechanics and then after wipe #2 “Don’t get mad at me, I don’t know how this works” and then leaves.

An allied race in full heirlooms, mind you. If it was a core race in basic quest gear it would be a completely different story.

I think dungeons need to be harder all along, and have mechanics that mean something for every role, so people figure it out.

That or healers start dropping healing taken charts at the end of the run for shaming purposes.

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I always assume people like this are either lying or massively over exaggerating to make themselves look better.

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I would say exaggeration for sure. If he was actually pulling sustained 80k dps some group who he happened to stumble upon would have added him as a friend and remedied his need to pug. The people who “always pug no matter what” are generally bad, but have been carried so they know how a group should feel. If you are actually good, you get absorbed into a larger group pretty fast.

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Sure. I will feed the troll.

Last run I did, I left time in window as reference and edited out players names.

https ://imgur. com/a/QSvSbNI

This is my second alt, not even my main. Whats the excuse next time? Will it be because I am a DH? Do I need to run on my Frost DK and post a picture too?..

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That’s the answer to your entire question.

They came into the game. Someone told them ilvl and DPS were the most important thing. Someone probably gave them the link to Icy Veins. They then commenced to tunneling on getting better gear. They maybe bought carries or played elite edgelord with their own keys to get carried until they had the ilvl. They did the dailies and got enough echoes or enough good RNG to get decent corruption. They slammed that patchwerk target dummy until they saw a number deemed “now you’ve gotten gud.”

Then…the proceed to join every 15+ group and insist that they’re the best player to grace WoW and it’s all the tank or healer’s fault. They don’t interrupt or they burn interrupts on casts that don’t matter. They stand in bad and pull things they shouldn’t. They don’t observe or even understand the affixes…but they got the ilvl and they have the DPS number, so it’s not their fault and they have nothing more to learn.

That is the entirety of the answer to your question, and because you’ve limited yourself to pugging, you will not be able to escape these players.

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Just somehow depleted a 7+ AD. I knew immediately the druid tank was not using mitigation anything. I asked him to please use ironfur. 10 mins in after it failed, I checked. TOTAL UPTIME OF IRONFUR —> 5 seconds. THE WHOLE DUNGEON.

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I’ve only been able to get 450 as a solo player. Unless you know how to get trinkets above 420 (do tell).

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