Sure, but there’s a difference between “oh no, the boss parried my first swing” and “the Warriors have to use Cleave instead of Heroic Strike and stop auto attacking every now and then because they’d pull aggro otherwise.”
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That’s why you run with more than one tank. /shrug
Its unsurprising.
Your reward is the same, regardless of whether you play it safe or play it risky. Both are valid ways to play.
Lmao. Imp regrowth spec is fun as heck. Don’t be a hater.
no, the reward is going faster, and keeping those players who enable you to go faster IN YOUR GUILD, instead of another guild with a more modern raid composition.
This is the view of a bad player who hates self/group improvement tools.
The first guild wanted me to better myself…by making sure I can never roll on melee dps gear. That sounds about right. lol
man i wonder why a guild wouldn’t give a non-consuming zero enchant ret paladin loot…
Hi, I am in this guild. We are a meme guild. We aren’t elitist, and frankly didn’t even look at his logs until after he /gquit without warning and then told us it was because we wouldn’t give him gear. We have had a problem like this in the past, and have learned that when someone is expecting to get the BiS belt after being there for 4 Rag kills over a warrior that has been here since August (me), it is better to just let them walk. This is the first time we have had someone wish bodily harm on us openly in trade chat though, so that’s weird.
Check my logs if you want, I don’t use consumables generally and I rarely get world buffs. Most of us are IRL friends and we are here to share memes in Discord. Elitist is not the right word.
Theres no way to say this without sounding rude so ill just say it
Ret is a cancer to the raid. It serves no purpose. Bring a warrior or rogue and you get 2x the dps. When you raid as a ret paladin you are asking your team to take on a cancer and reward it.
Edit: aslo if theyre using logs and STILL saying you arent doing well then theres a huge problem as ret paladins already cant do damage and even for a ret they think you are underperforming
I would agree if the buff cap weren’t a thing and fights in Classic weren’t designed around “heal this person immediately or they die in the next global” such that HoTs are worthless.
They wanted you to “git gud,” as it were. No point wasting gear on a slackadin.
Did you know that some MMORPG’s and FPS games ban those “self improvement” tools as you call them…because those games consider them extremely toxic and ban people using them? Someone earlier in this post said they risked getting banned by using those same “self improvement” tools in other games lol. I wonder how a handicapped (mentally or physically) player feels when someone shoves the data from those “tools” in his/her face.
If they’re carrying you they’re going to reward the players that are contributing more. You picked a meme spec to begin with so you’re already having to work harder to prove your worth in the team. Warriors and rogues will always do more dps than you, it advances the team more giving them the gear over you. Your logs show that you don’t really care about your performance so why would they reward bad behaviour?
Sounds like the creators of those MMORPGS and FPS games are sensitive snowflakes that try to offer safe spaces.
You should be the first one to be looking over your logs. You should care about your performance.
wow thats pretty ableist and disgusting, you are just assuming that those people would not be able to objectively look at their own performance?
thats actually really offensive just reported you
Translation: some games allow for lazy players get carried in their raid group because no one has any way of determining if someone was performing poorly.
I’m sure you’d love those games. Go play them instead of WoW, maybe?
Define “contributing more”…are we talking about DPS? I know people worship the damage meter and parses…but are paladins contributing more when they buff or save a raid wipe with lay on hands or a well timed blessing of protection… or spend the entire God damn raid applying the Nightfall debuff? Or is it strictly dps? Let me guess…it’s just dps…
I’m going to give you some advice you won’t take: delete this thread then transfer to another server. Make sure there’s already another toon there with your name so you’re forced to change yours.
Or they compared ret pally dps to rogue/warrior dps and are complaining, in which are they’re using the logs wrong. Which is equally likely.
No, contributing begins before the raid even starts and then comes your performance contributions. You’re getting carried, obviously.
yes its DPS. DPS is king. I could put that nightfall in the hands of a OT warrior and get much better results.
Also many guilds dont even bother with that weapon, as a decent dps will deal more damage than you would gain from the procs of it. So really you only bring that weapon when you have a dps who isnt dealing damage anyways, so they might as well help others