Why not void elf DH?

Now that you can customise Void Elf to look literally the same as Blood Elf, as a matter of fact its subset of the same race why can’t Void Elves be Demon Hunters? The rig is the same, it would not be too hard to implement

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Blizzard hates DH

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Because it doesent fit the lore

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How so? A genuine question as I am not exactly lore buff.

In the race description it literally says “group of blood elves led by Magister Umbric who were exiled from Silvermoon City because of their research into the Void”, I don’t see that as a reason for some members of this sub group to not be able to gouge their eyes out and hunt demons.

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Hasn’t stopped Blizzard before

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If you think about it,those group of “Elfs” arent even part of the blood elfs anymore they took a different path you dont see nor hear about void elfs in the lore for Demon hunters

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So just make new lore, like when they invented Blood Elf Demon Hunters for The Burning Crusade.

There should be Void Elf and Nightborne Demon Hunters.

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not that simple lol we already done did BC

Void elves are infused with the void, and they struggle to control it.

Demon hunters are infused with a demon soul, and we struggle to control it.

The void and fel are literally enemies.

Containing both within a single race would be absurd

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The simple reason is that it’s canonic history at this point.

The blood elves who became Illidari were handpicked fighters from Kael’thas’ Sunfury legion in Outland. Those that survived the initial demon-ritual process were then trained by Illidan en masse to become an elite demon-killing-machine army as quickly as possible. This all happened during the Burning Crusade time period.

During this same time period and a little while after IIRC, the elves who would become the void elves were a group of scholarly-minded individuals who wished to study void magic, but were shunned or cast out by the rest of Sin’dorei society. So they went off into hiding in Telogrus Rift.

Basically, they were on different planets and didn’t interact with each other.

As for right now, in addition to the fact that infusing a person with void and fel would likely result in an extremely unstable magical mix and probably just blow the void elf who tried up, the training process kills most people who try to become demon hunters anyway. The statistic for survival is 1 in 5. Feel proud. Your character made the cut.

But this statistic is important because it makes it unreasonable for anyone else to try and take on the demon hunter path when far safer options are available. Especially now that the legion is defeated.

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That still does not sound like its impossible :slight_smile:

Putting the lore bending required to make it work aside, we have recently had an overhaul where literally any race can be a DK, and that was something that wasn’t meant be possible. Not to mention its such a low hanging fruit in term of generating some quick revenue for minimum effort. If there is an expansion or patch where we are under threat by more demons we will need more demon hunters however risky the process is.

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Nope. Becoming a Death knight = Being raised from the dead by necrotic sorcery. Any mortal can die and produce a corpse, thusly, any mortal can become a death knight. This was always the case, unless you can point out some text on the subject I haven’t read that states that only certain races can be raised from death, then I don’t think you have a base here.

EDIT: Forget about Worgen. Worgen are a slippery slope here, due to immunity to scourge and all.

So this is what you want WoW to become? I get it…the have disregarded bits of lore, or retconned lore in the past to fit new narratives…but there are also concrete reasons that certain races can’t be certain classes.

^ This.

You could make the argument that Void Elf warlocks pulling fel energies from the nether achieves the same thing, but manipulating fel energy from time and letting it take over your body are two very different things.

As a concession: I do believe Zandalari Trolls should maybe get access to the class, due to Demoniac lore which is quite similar (outside of being trained by Illidan, etc, etc.) You would have to create some mental barriers and loopholes unless Blizzard was willing to take the class skin and design an all new lore intro around it, but none that you don’t also have to make when considering many other odd race/class combinations in the game.

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Demoniacs are kind of a weird grey area. They did exist in classic, but when the Zandalari came back for MoP, they weren’t there anymore, and I think were the only Zandalar type to be missing too. And now, the Zandalari have a much more “holy” aspect, and can’t even be Warlocks.

Of course, the lore is there if they ever wish to revive it. My personal fan-canon would be the Darkspear reviving the Demoniac arts, maybe as a complement to Human DHs. But for now, it seems like the Demoniacs are basically retconned out.

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Yeah I saw that as well, though the lore pages on them still show up. It is a really cool concept that I hope they revive in the future. One of the more legitimate options for the class, and unlike other races it does not require the burning legion to make sense as demoniacs did what they did to fight any enemy of the Zandalari.

Edit: These forums are buggy. Not only does it have my posting character locked to a random character…but not only has my rogue race and name been changed, but so has my demon hunters. Some time ago. Still appears as these though.

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I mean you’re not wrong. Far enough down the line I do see Blizzard opening up the DH class to other races… if for nothing other than to say “Look what we did!” :roll_eyes:

But it isn’t that it’s impossible. It’s that it’s so big of a stretch that it devalues the existing lore. It’s kinda the same problem with opening up old elite pvp sets or mage tower appearances. Exclusivity makes something mean more to the people who have it.

Personally I really really wish they’d just leave the demon hunter races tf alone.

doesn’t fit the timeline

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Timeline is so flexible it might as well not even exist. So many races that were not even discovered in WotLK times can be DKs. I mean, even lightforged draenei can be deathknights, which is as much if not more of a contradiction. I honestly seriously dislike NE models, but if I want to play alliance with friends, thats my only choice (for DH).

I think void and nightborne elves should be able to be DH. According to lore any race can be demon hunters, and with the new streamlined starting levels and areas, there’s really no reason not to allow both races access to the class. They can simply be not attached to the illidari.

Lore reasons have already been adequately explained. Gameplay wise, there’s currently no equivalent for the Horde. Nightborne are a theoretical option but that’s even flimsier than Void Elves.

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Umm have you seen the Tauren demon hunters in Highmountain?

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They’re not demon hunters. They’re fel corrupted. Literally anything can become that.

But it isn’t really a contradiction. As has been said, anyone can die and be resurrected via necromantic sorcery. Being blessed by the light doesn’t make you immune to undeath.

This has been explained though. The new race DK’s are a different generation of death knights - ones who died in the fourth war (BFA) and were resurrected by the Bolvar Lich King. There’s nothing about this that even slightly wobbles established lore or the timeline.

I know void elves and nightborne seem like the obvious shoe-in for DH races because they share the NE and BE rig. But to say that

is flat out false. The only way to arrive at this conclusion is to either completely ignore established lore or to just bulldoze right over it entirely.

^ this… again.

But it isn’t just the fact that it would be absurd. When a person in WoW can’t handle the magical energies they’re attempting to hold inside of their body, do you know what happens?

They

Literally

Just

Explode.