The same thing could be said about easy content. Just do it for fun. You don’t need high level rewards.
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MMORPGS aren’t and shouldn’t be all about raids and dungeons.
Particularly as the only avenue of meaningful growth in power.
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To be fair, I never said anything of the sort.
But, even with everything you said. What item level do you want? Again, I’m curious. Korthia is a casual players heaven, or should be. Swarms of people killing rares so you don’t need to group. An easy way to upgrade gear to be equivalent to normal mode’s last 2 bosses. (Easy as in now, everyone knows Arvhivist rep sucked hardcore prior to the changes). Or do you consider 233 item level too low? Would you like Korthia more if the gear capped at 239? Thus invaliding both Normal and Heroic and Casual Conquest gear, and all M+ loot except for vault items for doing an 11 or higher?
It’s a fine line and tricky. M+ is already the easiest way to gear and thus almost invalidates raiding by itself, hell it does invalidate Normal and most of Heroic. If world content that was easily soloable and done in 2 minutes invalidated M+ gear, then its participation along with raiding would drop much lower than it already is.
This isn’t about gatekeeping. Activities need a reward cap. Raiding Mythic is the highest cap as that is the hardest content in the game. Beyond that it gets skewed a bit. Heroic raid and 15’s give 239 and 236(246 for last 2 bosses, vs 252 from vault once a week). Normal drops 226 and 233. I don’t have a clue the item levels for PvP at those various brackets. But Korthia gives 233. Literally equivalent to the last two bosses of Normal Mode raiding and on par with gear that drops from a +14 key.
But 233 doesn’t seem to be high enough. Or, people just don’t want to spend 20 minutes(if that) in Korthia each day doing 4-5 quests and killing a few rares?
You say you aren’t asking for gear from doing nothing. You don’t want it mailed to you. You aren’t asking for mythic level gear. But, in a game filled with grinds in a genre associated with grinds, doing a little korthia each day is apparently too much and 233 is apparently too low.
I just…I don’t get it. Personally, once my alts hit 220+ I’m happy as literally nothing in shadowlands is a threat at that point outside of Perdition Hold if you decide to aggro the whole place.
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WoW has been since day one.
If that upsets you, play another game.
They’re not.
You can get gear and progress your character further than you ever have before without ever stepping foot into instanced content.
It’s just never enough for you greedy, entitled little grubs
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That’s exactly right.
Either the activities are fun enough to stand on their own or every activity needs to have high level rewards.
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That’s funny since its the players who can smash out the higher content who charge for carries.
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That doesn’t even make sense lmao
It does.
If the players who smashed out the high end content valued their own efforts in achievements they wouldn’t stand for players selling runs just hand their achievements over to casual buyers.
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You keep using the word “meaningful” but as I go through the thread, I’m convinced you don’t know what it means.
What you’re really asking for is max-level rewards.
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It has nothing to do with high end players.
It will never be enough for people like you.
You don’t deserve mythic raid gear for doing braindead easy world quests or hunting treasures.
Sorry not sorry.
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No…read the title. High lvl gear. Not Mythic-Raid, I don’t need anything-else-gear.
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Why would a casual or solo player want high ilvl gear? Seriously curious, why do you want it if the gear you’re currently able to obtain through casual content is more than enough to do whatever you want?
Looks coolish?
Honestly my own want to play this game has dropped sharply due to the grinds.
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You have access to ilvl 246 gear without ever having to step into a Mythic + dungeon. What more do you want?
Because Blizzard refuses to nerf old content like Legion mythic raids.
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Okay. Here we go.
I pulled my DMG off the shelf and typed in this section. From the man who invented role-playing games.
When people ask why they can’t get better rewards without having a corresponding increase in challenge required to get those rewards, this is why:
This is not a new thing.
This is not a WoW thing.
This is not a Blizzard thing.
The reason that you do not give players rewards that are out-of-kilter with the challenge to get them is because games like that do not work.
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You don’t need mythic raid item level to do these raids lmao
They’re the only ones crazy enough to stick around and still call this game good.
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A fresh alt certainly can’t.
What does that matter to you?
You doomers are pathetic
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