Why not give Casuals high lvl gear?

Item level’s pointless and as per many “high level players” even here on the forums, a terrible bar to use to judge a person’s skill anyways.

But they also don’t want to give up their precious item level gaps, because they want people to fawn over their gear, despite the gear being just numbers.

Casual people want to hit bigger numbers and clear content they enjoy faster to, but because they don’t play the same way as others it’s okay to demonize them for wanting more than absolutely nothing.

You mention you want higher level gear? Immediate responses is “Why do you want mythic level raid gear to do world quest!?”

Despite mythic raid gear never even being mentioned, people just assume. “What do you just want blizzard to mail you mythic gear?”

Or other stupid comments along those likes.

Casual players aren’t asking for Free Mythic Raiding gear, they aren’t asking for epics to be mailed to their inbox.

They just don’t want to do group content, because to be frank wow’s a toxic cesspool at this point I cannot blame anyone for not wanting to deal with other people, but still want to progress their characters. Otherwise why bother playing? That’s kinda where they are at. Stagnation, and everything being locked behind ridiculous group content filled with situations that are not enjoyable, and grinds that are not fun, will just lead to people leaving.

Casual players want content, and if wow won’t give it to them, they will just go play other games, which no one can pretend losing the casual player base is not a big deal to wow. :roll_eyes:

We don’t care about your overbloated raids with a dozen things to keep track of per fight, we don’t care about your e-sports speed run garbage. We don’t care to engage in pvp (Which is arguably even more toxic than the last two). We just want to play a fantasy game and go pew pew at bad things and get rewards for it.

One day Blizzard will figure that out and actually figure out a meaningful way to keep casual players invested.

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Yup. If you want mythic raiding gear, go do mythic raiding, m+ or pvp.

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Well said.

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Or pay for it.

Pfft. What a joke.

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It would be nice if casuals could get better gear. I just want to be viable in BG’s again. I really miss them. I’m not sure why a casual would want awesome gear though tbh. I just wanna be viable in unrated pvp - I can’t bc of the gear issue for unrated pvp.

Another thought, give ppl who do hardcore stuff more epic mogs/mounts/titles then ever before. Surely, you wouldn’t be that mad if casuals get gud gear - if you get stuff they do not, since so many have that mentality.

Even though WoW has always been about getting better gear - I’m over it.

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by “content” of course you mean “loot”. there’s plenty of content. it just doesn’t reward the loot they want.

might i suggest a single player game? enter cheat codes and award yourself whatever goodies you feel you’ve earned doing only the content you enjoy :sunglasses:

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This whole thing has nothing to do with people doing harder content not wanting ‘casuals’ to get better gear. People doing harder content really do not care in the slightest what ‘casual’ players are wearing.

The reason that better rewards require overcoming greater challenges is because that’s how RPG’s have always been designed, because experiments to the contrary (known as Monty Haul games) have always collapsed.

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I’m sure this is EXACTLY what they’re saying :clown_face:

I just wanna do random bgs!!! Blizz needs to do some more for casuals.

Really looking forward to the mage tower and some challenge.

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If the only motivation to do high end content is the gear then the content isn’t fun at all.

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Also threads like this probably wouldn’t be as prevalent if the power gap between normal raid gear and mythic raid gear wasn’t as vast as the Grand Canyon.

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Money, and his chicks for free.

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Casuals don’t need mythic raid gear. Casual content is definitely doable in whatever garbo questing gear you have on

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Enjoy your tomb.

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Nobody will raid if the only reason to do it is for fun.

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I ain’t that popular or famous but a man can dream.

I intend to.

Casual gearing is fine.

The level of entitlement is insane.

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Raid and dungeons have ALWAYS been central to WoW. If you don’t care about either of those, why do you even play the game?

You make it sound like developer’s fault there’s no meaningful way to keep casual players invested. There is lots of content - you just choose not to do it.

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If an activity isn’t fun enough to stand on its own without massive rewards then you have a design problem.

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Nobody else put raids on such a high pedestal.

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“I actively avoid 70% of the game, why is there nothing to do?!”

I don’t get it lmao

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