In a dungeon you can kick somebody if they ruin the game for you. Ya know… they arent doing any dmg? kick! pulling extra mobs? kick! not helping team? kick!
but in BG we are screwed with cancer.
just did a BG and had 2 tank guys in there doing literally nothing. they were spamming chat with poop and sex jokes. why cant we kick them? if we report them afk they just go tag an enemy and then go back to doing nothing.
Please let us kick players for messing up the fun. You let us kick players in dungeons… why any diff in pvp?
How is it any different just because we were fighting other players instead of npcs? wut???
Because how do you decide if someone should be kicked in a BG?
In a dungeon, there is a pretty linear path on how to get through it. If someone is running off pulling stuff, not tanking well, not healing well, sucking hard at DPS, those are pretty clear reasons you might consider.
How do you decide any of that in a BG though? PvP is a different skill set and there are different objectives in each one IN ADDITION to fighting each other.
I could see that getting HORRIBLY abused if implemented.
In PvE, you can still successfully complete a LFR with teammates who are undergeared or are on bad specs. As long as the raid isn’t wiping multiple times or someone isn’t completely AFK, the vote kick option is rarely used.
In PvP, players would vote kick undergeared teammates or those on bad PvP specs to increase their odds of victory.
BGs take 15 minutes and dungeons don’t. You said these specific guys weren’t helping at all, but what happens when some annoying dude is doing great, but is just a jerk. This will just lead to good but toxic players getting kicked, when you could just /ignore them. IF this were to be implemented I’d hope they require at least 5 votes so that it wasn’t abused.
TL;DR if you can’t use ignore and don’t want to /afk out, bgs aren’t for you.
The reasons to kick someone from a dungeon are NOT the same reasons you would consider kicking someone from a BG.
Some one could get a royal bug up their keister because they are fighting rather than running a flag or protecting, but fighting instead of that other thing is NOT a reason to kick them. Fighting the enemy IS part of a BG, whether someone else THINKS you should be focused on an objective or not.
Yes they are. Blue said you can vote/kick for any reason you want. I can initiate a vote/kick because I don’t like your transmog, name or for not going left when I wanted you to and if the majority agree and vote “yes”, they consider it legit.
Now, that doesn’t mean it was an intelligent vote just “within the rules.”
I’ve literally watched someone get kicked and the reason given was “Hi”
Sometimes people aren’t afk in a BG, but they’re also not contributing. Just because you’re dpsing someone often enough to not get kicked, does not mean you’re not being a burden, or dead weight
Vote kick in BGs would be nice. Would also let you kick those people that just spam chat about how bad so and so is, or how everyone is stupid cuz we’re not winning, etc…
The same can be said for dungeons, which is why it’s up to the team to decide. A dps may be dpsing, but they may also not be following mechanics. Just like a dps may be dpsing in a BG, but not following objectives
Each case is individual and unique. There can’t be a cookie cutter of “You’re not doing X, so you’re kicked.” It needs to be up to the team to decide.
Especially if the person is just plain toxic. We’ve all run across them. That person that brings down morale by shouting how bad or stupid everyone is. Talking total crap, and just making the whole BG experience terrible.
That person may be dpsing, or even following objectives, but the team should still be able to remove them if they’re being a problem, and ruining the fun
You can kick people out, the option does exist its just more subtle and secret, if lots of people report you away you will get kicked outright from the battleground and there is no combat to remove cow debuff ability.