Why is the balance for healer in M+ so bad right now?

I’m not saying it won’t happen. But I doubt it.

No one was complaining about PCT when it single handedly handled the mechanic on that worm boss in nelths lair.

Sadly i fear this what will happen as few players defending blizzard and blizzard will stick with it.

i’m pretty close to quitting as its unreal trying get my crest getting denied to keys and get dmed rsham only sorry. like bro put it in the title atleast

and people will leave keys if it cant be timed as it goes on there raider profile and yea so for thoughs of us actually trying we get screwed i’m at a point where i may just go back to FFXIV with a bunch friends who are now all gone

its frustrating i returned after being gone since legion and kinda regret it atm.

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which poisons? cause in wake the poison by 3rd boss tick for over 1mil and i know the poison in city of threads near before 3rd boss ticks for about 750k .

there the dot in last boss siege to that in 9 or up hits for half your hp then ticks for 20% more after each tick so its either it gets put on 2 non tank one dies likely if you dont spam them to full and dispel when its back up off cd.

The first season of mythic+ is always the worst. It’s the season that is the hardest and most unbalanced mostly because they don’t bother testing it

The only way to balance is to homogenize. Which will make it boring. They put in affixes only some classes can deal with then at this point they need to remove anything like that. I dont think they’re creative enough to realize this though. They never listen. Its one step forward three steps back with M+ usually.

Because Blizzard is beyond incompetent and ignored most feedback they get prior to releasing stuff that could fix a lot of these issues.

what’s disingenuous? by “they” i meant blizzard. i’m not disagreeing rsham is the best right now. i don’t think anyone is.

of course it can be done. but rsham is far and away the favorite. the top 64 runs all have rsham healers. there are 3 runs in the top 200 with a monk healer (and it’s all the same person). you have to go down to #265 before you see a paladin healer.

at the +12 level, 77.5% of healers are resto shaman.

they would have been if every dungeon for one week in the affix rotation had that mechanic popping up every minute or whatever

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Holy paladin in the back half of DF S2.

Because literally why play the worse/bad specs in keys

In high keys if you get a title it’s acc wide

There’s no spec loyalty in pve

Even pvp has class loyalty

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Some people just don’t enjoy playing resto shaman and that’s totally fine, there’s nothing wrong with enjoying other classes/specs more

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Resto Shaman is in Aug territory. If they nerf it now they risk ending the M+ season.

If they nerf dungeons along with Resto Shaman they risk shooting their new reward structure in the foot.

Their only choice is to buff the other healers, which likely buffs them for raid. Which risks ending their raid season.

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Meh I say make it happen. Keep in mind that giving more utility to other healers might not affect the raid season as much, too. It’s definitely more of a M+ thing.

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Resto Shamn has been done been this good since all of DF, it’s just now people are flocking to them because they were never over nerfed into the ground.

People don’t like Monk and Prevoker because they’re awkward to play, people don’t like Disc because they don’t play healer to have a DPS rotation. MW was buffed through the roof and Prevoker has been good. Pally was nerfed into the ground and Disc caught strays because of Xodia. I hear Resto Druid is good now though.

I’m surprised more people don’t play Holy Priest. I mean I see more Holy Priests than I do Disc running around, I don’t even think I’ve seen a Disc Priest other than myself in the open world.

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That’s dumb, disc is hard to raid heal with. It’s only weakness in dungeons not having an interrupt.

Disc is nuts outside of the raid. But I would still take one if my raid didn’t have Fort. They bring really good externals in PW:B, Rapture and Pain Supp.

R Sham doesn’t even have an external and they go OOM like crazy in the raid. You gotta learn how to play Farseer Riptide in raid or you’re gonna be going OOM.

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It’s weakness in dungeons is that it has a very high skill floor in content with way more personal responsibility than a raid and where losing a single player on a boss is catastrophic.

The skill floor for disc needs to come down a lot.

I was just making a point. I didn’t want to “Overexaggerate” but thanks for pointing out the issue is much worse. lmao

Last boss is Magic if it’s the same debuff I’m thinking of, and I can deal with that - Every 8 seconds. So, it feels like at least one person always has it on them unless I MD a set.

Not necessarily – You could just give the Healers missing utility.

RShamans are only king right now because of their Kits. – Priests are pumping out comparable HPS, but lack Stuns, Interrupts, and Debuff Removal outside of Magic.

They could fix this issue tomorrow with 4 changes:

  1. Give all Healers the Ability to remove any type of Debuff other than Bleeding
    – Curses, Poisons, Magic
  2. Give all Healers an Interrupt
  3. Give all Healers a Battle Rez
  4. Buff Resto Druids HPS – They need it, its bad.

This can be done in Balance with PvP if you make them PvE talants kin to PvP - That can’t be used when Flagged.

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I would rather all healers not have an interrupt. DPS and tank already have one. I would rather DPS have multiple interrupts. I posted this a lot in DF. The interrupt stinginess is weird to me, the game is heavily balanced around them still.

I do think it’s odd that not all the healers can take care of poisons and curses though. Is it some type of balance thing or RP thing? It makes sense RP wise, but balance wise it makes zero sense.

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I truly believe that WoW devs no longer play the game, and so have no idea what balance is going to look like until they start making spreadsheets weeks into the season. What’s terrifying to me is that, since they have no idea how M+ is going right now, they may very well just destroy Resto Shammies with a 35% healing nerf across the board, and make things even worse.

We need all the other healers brought up to the level of Shamans.