Why is the Alliance getting an interesting internal conflict *after* the faction-focused expansion?

Best part? None of those troops were human. The other racial leaders are fine with Anduin throwing away the lives of their people.

Also if your military plan hinges on suicide troops, its probably not a good plan at all.

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well… if its worth anything halford did offered to lead the assault.

Wait… wow I can’t believe I forgot this. I remembered seeing Night Elves and Worgen (As if the Gilneans need to lose MORE of their people after the events of Gilneas and now Teldrassil). I forgot that all the troops in the suicide mission was non-human races.

Wow… I just. I hate Anduin and how Blizzard writes him. I hope he gets left in the Maw, I am tired of every other race other than the Humans suffering for Anduin’s incompetence.

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I think the end result would have been the same to be honest (Anduin or Jaina stopping him from capitalizing on the ground they gained and eliminating the Zandalari as a threat for good).

Moralizing is more important than winning a war in the Alliance leadership’s eyes.

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No no. In Adnuin’s eyes, it’s just that Blizzard has to write the rest of the Alliance leadership out of character to hamfist them to fit Anduin’s ideals and narrative.

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Need to start calling it Activision.

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Agreed, but it would never work. The Horde gets to fracture in the middle of a faction war because the Horde gets to have leaders who are so evil that the rest of the Horde will risk annihilation at the hands of the Alliance to oppose them. The Alliance will never have a leader so evil that they will risk annihilation at the hands of the Horde to oppose them, particularly given the Horde’s history of annihilation.

Alliance conflict needs to be addressed during a neutral threat expansion immediately following a war expansion. This way the peacemongers can talk about how they need the Horde in the fight against the Scourge/Warlords/Legion/Jailer, and the warmongers can talk about the atrocities committed by the Horde last time they had an evil warchief while the wounds are still fresh.

Then the war monger faction can take charge at the start of/during the opening of the following expansion, and we either have another war faction, or a strained relationship while fighting a third party expansion like Legion.

“Gets to”?

Seeing how tame are the characters in the Alliance, I don’t see much of a chance for even a stern talk between the Alliance leadership(even the writers likes to portray them as perfectly bland)

The only possible conflict that could happen in a reasonable fashion would be Yrel joining the Alliance with her Lightbound army and slowly build up her power with brainwashing the human population of SW through propaganda like Garrosh did.

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Only if blizzard wrote the worgen as the vicious race they were supposed to be and let them do the morally questionable stuff alliance side

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Blizzard really do be setting things up just to go “nah j/k”

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Sometime it does feel like a cruel joke. That isn’t getting any funnier.

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BLIZZARD: writes a Worgen Heritage quest that it literally about rejecting Worgen Heritage in favor of staying human

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Yep, gotta love being told your race is basically a mistake and you shouldn’t want to be one because it doesn’t define who you are. :roll_eyes:

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It’s funny in a sad way how the racial fantasy essentially stops at level 5 or so when the player becomes a worgen themselves.

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Exactly. No home, no racial identity we are just furry stormwind Humans now. Hell, they changed the Gilnean flag to have the the Stormwind lion head. Complete smack in the face for Worgen/Gilnean players.

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Cause you know, that’s what alliance side needs…more Human Potential God forbid if they have a morally gray race. I hate blizz sometimes with their cruel jokes.

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Well, you also forgot the part where the entire worgen lore was consumed/rolled into the Kaldorei lore…than if you wanted to experience the potential the worgen had, you had to roll a forsaken and quest in Hillsbrad. Just so blizz can write a heritage armor questline just to say Lawl, worgen suck, and you suck for liking the worgen. Should’ve rolled human

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I know I’m not winning any points for revolving back to this old complaint but it still bums me out that the worgen didn’t end up as a horde race. Part of it is how Goldrinn/Lo’gosh was supposed to be really important to orcs, and that it’s the actually same being from Draenor. Like, if they had a deity to worship, it would have been Lo’gosh. Then its importance jumps faction lines just to get rolled into the night elves’ menagerie of wild gods when he’s not babysitting Varian of all people.

I kind of wish the Worgen went horde, they probably would’ve been written better. Instead of blizz trying to ham-fist them into being Angry Humans with a skin condition