Why is the alliance allowed to have a single ruler

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Well they had to use some lame excuse why the genociding and mass murdering player faction is good now.
Democracy is an easy enough solution.

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Because more notably it’s the moment Sylvanas’ strategy failed, as Genn did not betray the Night Elves or the Alliance, supporting both by sending troops to aid the Night Elves at Darkshore and simultaneously standing with Anduin by personally heading to Dazar’alor, after which everything shifted to the Alliance’s favor.

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USA (overthrows democratically elected government in a South American country because it wasn’t friendly to US corporate interests, replaces it with autocrat who lets them take whatever they want on the cheap): We are SO the good guys, defenders of Democracy!

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Already talked about in so many threads the last half a decade, but that wasn’t the strategy. The strategy was to undermine the ties of the alliance by challenging the inexperienced high king.

It worked. I was simply pointing out that everyone’s “The High King has no authority!” arguments fly in the face of the “Sylvanas plan had to be fake because it would never work, because they are all super besties!” From some of the same people.

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Sylvanas’ plan to weaken the Alliance for her war wasn’t fake. What was fake was her proposal to merely hold Teldrassil hostage when her intent was to burn it all along, and what else was fake was Sylvanas’ intention to secure prosperity for the Horde when what she actually wanted was a war that would grind its people to death.

Nonetheless, Sylvanas’ strategy to undermine the Alliance’s ties because of Anduin’s inexperience failed because of Genn’s counsel to Anduin about the support the Alliance members needed.

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That’s called a retcon.

But it didn’t. It worked so well. Like… exactly as planned with some minor delays.

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You know we are one month away from the Sylvanas book. I say we just wait and see if Blizzard can actually make a more coherent take on this entire thing.

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Wasn’t talking about that. Tyrande wanted the full might of the Alliance to reclaim Darkshore. Anduin was like, “we don’t have the numbers and it is not that important to the war effort.”, so Tyrande was like, “fine! I’ll do it myself!”.

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Yeah, weve been talking about that on more Sylvanas centric threads. The problem is that you cant “make more sense” of story details from pre-retcon. Anything from the beginning of BFA, and anything from BFA produced prior to like… 8.1 or 2 is going to contain details that are inconsistent with the current narrative because they began retconning BFA, mid expansion.

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While it is true there will be inconsistencies, the hope is the book will at least managed to lessen or at least give some half passable reason for it.

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It did not work. The Alliance was not weakened, and the Horde lost all encounters from that point.

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The integrity of the Alliance is probably worse than the current horde. In addition, post Horde, Sylvanas had Anduin, and Jaina snatched up, and completely hamstrung Bolvar. With the High King abducted, the super “not weakened” alliance lost another leader to a self centered quest for revenge.

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Because the writers consider Anduin to be the “main character” of the Alliance.

Also they are creatively brain-dead, writing a council story-line for the Alliance is too hard for them. They invented this “not-warchief” title powered by Human Potential™ and forever destroyed the old Grand Alliance of Lordareon when they cooked up the High King title to elevate Varian over the rest of the faction leaders. It is now for a lack of better terms a human-ran empire with servitor races who will never have a real say in the leadership of the faction. The Horde now is more of an alliance than the actual Alliance is now.

Call me when a white human male isn’t the default leader for a change.

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Tyrande was saved in the 9.1 campaign. And as per the Exploring Kalimdor book the collective Horde races of Darkspear Trolls, Goblins, Forsaken, Vulpera, and both universes of Orcs inhabiting Orgrimmar are struggling to hold ground in Azshara against the Night Elves even with Tyrande and Shandris off in the Shadowlands. Sylvanas hasn’t done the Horde any favors before or after abandoning them.

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I thought Exploring Kalimdor was set before Shadowlands?

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It is after, the book does talk about the treaty.

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and the night elves are not able to force the horde out of ashenvale, even by cutting them off from suply lines…

Exploring Kalimdor make no sense.

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Splintertree Post has indeed been cut off from all sides. We don’t know if anything has changed during our time Shadowlands.

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So far, they can hold on without having a way to get out of the Ashenvale, in fact, they are sitting on a platter.

But miraculously…they are still standing

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