I have been derping around on my various alts just doing low keys and LFR and stuff nothing big, and it occurs to me how much crazy better range literally everyone has on their AoE.
Arcane Explosion 20 yards
Thrash/Swipe 26 yards
Shuriken Storm 26 yards
Divine Storm 20 yards w/ 20 yard projectile optionally
Earthquake, Rain of Fire, Blizzard 16 yards
and a whole bunch of other spells.
Why is Pyre like, 10? 
If you’re talking about the actual range, it’s 25 yards.
If you’re talking about range on the explosion, every other ability you’ve listed here requires you be in melee range or is a casted and targeted ground-effect aoe.
They also aren’t aoes based on casting on a target, and many are target capped, which pyre is not.
You’re comparing apples to oranges.
There’s no situation where you should struggle to hit things with pyre.
Why does the execution of the ability matter? Why do you assert that your opinion of this is better than mine, or more accurate than mine? AoE is AoE, how it’s executed is simply part of your class’s design. Melee being in melee to use melee AoE is normal and typical, expected. Same for range dps. How you get your AoE out is gonna be different for each class. But what is not the same for many classes, and particularly melee is why some have such huge sweeping reach on their AoE. The entire point of melee is that they have instant abilities that require being near a target, but when melee AoE has such a huge range it gives them a massive advantage (I was ret for 2 seasons, ret range is just brokenly silly)
Well I mean technically if you wanna get super “aCkShUaLLy” about it, every single spell in this entire game is a different spell than another so would be apples and oranges (and bananas, pineapples, and a thousand other fruits) but the reality is many spells function extremely similar, and regarding some as the same and some as different merely on a whim with no additional feedback other than that, is at best - simply your opinion. One I disagree with.
I have zero struggle hitting targets with pyre. But having a larger range on AoE effects like so so so many other classes do, would be fair. So many other classes can hit more stuff at a time with their AoE and ours is one of the smallest in the game.
The funny part is Firestorm is huge, I am pretty sure it’s one of the BIGGEST AoE’s. But I have yet to see or hear of anyone using Firestorm outside of memes or testing to double check that it’s mega bad.
Telling you that you’re comparing things that aren’t comparable isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact.
I could ask this question about the range, lol.
It matters because they are different and can’t be compared.
Having to be in melee range is not the same as casting something from 25 yards.
Having a cast time is not the same as instant.
Having a ground targeting effect that mobs can walk out of is not the same as having a targeted ability that mobs can’t walk out of.
Starting to make sense for you?
Tell me which spell you listed functions like pyre?
Enemy-targeted instant cast ability that can jump around with a talent like volatility (which extends its effective range, btw)
Then spec into firestorm. Also, how can you know what’s “fair”(lol) for a class you have barely played?
You must not have been very good at “one of these things is not like the other” when you watched Sesame Street as a wee lad, eh?
I seem to have touched on a topic that has gotten you riled up, I didn’t mean to press your buttons friend.
I think Pyre’s AoE range is small, you think it’s fine. It is what it is.
I mean, it is small compared to spells that work completely differently and are not even remotely comparable to it–agreed.
It already, by your admission, isn’t hard to hit everything with it.
I know it’s shocking on these forums, but not having your complaints echoed in a response and getting an alternative opinion is not a sign that someone is riled.
Your response to mine, however, makes it pretty clear that you were having a rough day, so I hope it got better!
This is why Pyre’s AOE radius is so small. It’s easy to hit things with. Much easier than with ground-targeted AOE and much safer than melee-range AOE.
Since it’s so easy to hit things with it does not need to be bigger. If Pyre were ground-targeted or blew up on yourself like arcane explosion, then the developers would have given it a larger radius.
Especially since it actually can have a larger radius than some/all of those spells with the right rng from volatility.
I’ve never even really noticed the shorter area range of pyre while playing because of the way enemies all stack up on top of each other. Not my favourite system in wow and tbh a bit immersion breaking for me personally but it is what it is.
The bigger issue I have is spread AoE and cleave, especially when enemies are significantly further apart. Anyone got ideas for that?
Every time I hit Pyre on my Devoker I hear Kazooie shooting an egg in my head.
Ok.‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎
This was an effective response and I am surprised at the effect it had.
Nobody wants effective here, you silly goose.
Stating facts gets you flamed on wow forums.
I’m just supposed to let people complain and get support from others with complaints, I think?
Telling people “Ok.” is my polite way of ending discourse with contrarian people. I replied in good faith to a rebuttal of my idea and then got mocked a few times for my troubles.
If you look at Arcade’s post history (You can hide that if you wanted btw, Arcade) you’ll see 90% of the threads she posts in she’s very "no you're wrong" about any topic, large and small. She thrives on "no u" and "you mad bro" type comments. Seriously just browse even 5-6 of her last 20 threads (not comments in 1 thread, but different threads) took me about 3-4 minutes to get the picture.
I would say she’s a troll but I think she genuinely believes what she says most of the time, instead of inciting people for the sake of it, she’s just borderline elitist mixed with a touch of lack of self awareness.
Regardless I still think Pyre is too small and it would be nice if it was at least as big as the next smallest AoE instead of the smallest.
See? Home girl is so pressed she’s checking my post history and misquoting me. Desperate and sad.
I’m sorry she struggles to hit things with pyre. I honestly hope they buff the range for her so she can feel better.
I’d say you were trolling about not being able to hit pyre, but your single digit/trash devastation parses lead me to believe you’re serious 
Stick to Aug so you can get your DPS from better players.
No need to parse shame.
You’re right, you annoyed me so I made an effort to annoy you back, considering you’re copying me by calling me she/her like I just did to you, I would say it’s either working or you’re emulating me which in itself is pretty flattering. <3
but jokes aside if you are capable of any introspection of any kind, you don’t need to mock and insult people to get your point across.
Hey random person with an anonymous forum alt to post on! Cut me some slack man, I am new to the class. I have only full cleared heroic on my evoker once per raid. Im sure with time ill get better. Probably not as good as you im sure you’re a 3800 io 3/3 CE myth raider with 98+ parses on all fights yourself.
See Arcade gets it.
Legitimately just thought that if you were assuming my gender was female that it was likely that you were 
If you’ve actually stalked my post history you should know your troll attempts won’t affect me.