Why is PvP So... Yuck?

Do we have anyone on the dev team actually working on PvP balance? They’re clearly working on revamping existing maps but… how about our classes? I won’t step foot into an arena because these past few seasons just haven’t been fun class-wise for me. It was torturous enough chugging through for the riverbeast…

How can you sit there and promote the fact that you think it’s the correct way to handle pvp even though you’re fully aware of the community’s feelings about it?

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Some people are entitled to be wrong. PvP vendors are the better option and we all know it.

I’ve already explained it so many times till I’m blue in the face. PvP vendors do NOT belong in the game with its current iteration. They are not changing much with existing systems in shadowlands. You don’t need vendors, period.

No one cares about the games current iteration when it comes to pvp

Pve gear acquisition doesn’t fit into pvp current model

This cuts both ways

There is no pvp power or resilience anymore. PvP gear and PvE gear share the same stats. Why you ask? For the people who hate pve can stay competitive, that’s why. If you want stronger “pvp” ilvl gear. Go do arena and get the rank for it. If you only do WQ for pve gear, you won’t get mythic ilvls. So why should you be handed the best ilvl in the game?

…or we can take WoD’s example of PvP gear being 710 in PvE content and 740 in PvP. It’s almost like PvP gear should be better in PvP…

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They share the same stats.

No ones asking for that

I’d settle for 445 ilvl and 460

We’ve had older more successful models, return to those

Problem solved

This isn’t rocket science

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And different item levels depending on the type of content you did. They even scaled up to 740 when you were attacked in the open world, dynamically adjusting to the fact that you were in PvP combat.

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445 is literally 1800 in arena. If you love pvp so much go work for the gear and stop crying.

445 is emissary level gear. Is the fact that PvP gear at 1.8 is dropping literal world quest ilvls worth considering to you?

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Arena is your end game. Mythic is mine. If you want the best gear go earn it and stop expecting handouts.

Who the hell are you reading if you think I’m asking for handouts? I told you I wanted WoD PvP gear.

Then go find a WoD private server. The game has grown and evolved. If you don’t like the direction, quit.

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I’m at 445 ilvl already, most the gear is useless to me

And why would I even consider it when I can just slam out a few m+ for gear

The problem is here, pvp gear is completely useless and it’s way easier to get higher ilvl gear than you’ll be able to achieve through arena by doing pve

So if I were to take your advise and just get better gear won’t I be at a disadvantage when other people have done pve and now have much better gear than I do?

Are you starting to see how this is stupid

Hello pls resond to my post with the multiglads and blizzcon competitors/champions wanting vendors back. I’m sure you know more about good PvP gearing systems than they do.

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This is so hilarious a response that I can’t help but laugh at you.

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Stop trying to ram a triangle through the square cut out. You are blind by your own bias. You are trying to misconstrue everything I’ve sad. You obviously have a disability and im not going to bother with this conversation. Good luck with your echo chamber, you aren’t getting vendors.

Why because I don’t agree with your whiny agenda, lol okay boomer.